From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 19:25:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384F116A469 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gcorcoran@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F119F13C465 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gcorcoran@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Jun 2007 14:55:41 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id ITD43321; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-55-230.c3-0.tlg-ubr5.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com (HELO [10.56.78.161]) ([207.172.55.230]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Jun 2007 14:55:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4665B2D2.50705@rcn.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:00:34 -0400 From: Gary Corcoran User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <20070605162424.0510a425@localhost> <20070605.095903.-432838228.imp@bsdimp.com> <200706051638.l55Gc9Wu014651@smtpclu-3.eunet.yu> <20070605.113536.-861029287.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20070605.113536.-861029287.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making clips Windows Media Player likes X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:25:55 -0000 Warner, > In message: <200706051638.l55Gc9Wu014651@smtpclu-3.eunet.yu> > Nikola Lecic writes: > : Hello > : > : On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:59:03 -0600 (MDT) > : "M. Warner Losh" wrote: > : > : > In message: <20070605162424.0510a425@localhost> > : > Norberto Meijome writes: > : > : On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:15:10 -0600 (MDT) > : > : "M. Warner Losh" wrote: > : > : > : > : > Is there a secret to making video clips that windows media player > : > : > likes? So far, all the ones I've done result in a fatal error at > : > the : > end. Is there a code/format I should specify to make things > : > good? : > > : > : > The source material is DV video that I've encoded with Kino and > : > then : > split apart to get a few short (~10s) clips that are the > : > highlights. : > : > : what encoding? wmv? > : > > : > The clips are currently encoded for a DVD in mpeg2video format. > : > : I think mencoder (a part of multimedia/mplayer) can do what you want. > : It handles mpeg2video. > : > : "mencoder (MPlayer's Movie Encoder) is a simple movie encoder, > : designed to encode MPlayer-playable movies (see above) to other > : MPlayer-playable formats (see below). It encodes to MPEG-4 > : (DivX/XviD), one of the libavcodec codecs and PCM/MP3/VBRMP3 audio in > : 1, 2 or 3 passes. Furthermore it has stream copying abilities, a > : powerful filter system (crop, expand, flip, postprocess, rotate, > : scale, noise, RGB/YUV conversion) and more." > : > : (mplayer manpage). > > Thanks for the suggestion. I've been using mplayer/mencoder for about > three years now to view videos and to do some minor transcoding of > videos. > > Hoever, I've spent the last three weeks with kino, mencoder, ffmpeg, > mpg2desc, mpegtranscode, and mpginfo trying to come up with something > that will work. These tools all work great together to translate the > DV videos into generic MPEG streams that dvdauthor/dvdstyler can use > to make nice DVDs. > > The specific question I have is what hoops do I need to jump through > to make it work with Windows Media Player and Windows Movie Maker. > What container formats work best when you are sending clips to > relatives that have just Microsoft's media player? Which codecs are > the ones that I want to use? Does that answer change if I use Windows > Movie Maker? > > So far my attempts to discover the right things by trial and error > have been frustrating and have all ended in error. > > So my question isn't 'what tools' to use. My question is 'what > parameters to feed to the tools to be maximally compatible?' Windows systems do NOT natively support MPEG-2. They only support it if they have a DVD player application installed. I'm afraid the only reasonable codec (besides a few crappy very old ones) that will work "out of the box" on windows media player is "windows media video" - wmv. Gary