From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 14 19:17:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4927316A403 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929A743D45 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:17:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2851286wxd for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.67.10 with SMTP id p10mr13116627wxa; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h8sm2618514wxd.2006.09.14.12.15.32; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7A6C019 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058E2BFE5 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by scorpio.seibercom.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k8EJFSAf035476 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:15:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) From: Gerard Seibert Organization: Seibercom.net To: FreeBSD Question Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:15:16 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <62007.209.103.215.99.1158241221.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20060914172015.GA54814@xor.obsecurity.org> <3ee9ca710609141029t3d7b9893t237b6c76ea848d80@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3ee9ca710609141029t3d7b9893t237b6c76ea848d80@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(=?utf-8?q?gxJxxc=0A=09RnSNPNr*/=5E=7EStawWU9KDJ-CT0k=24f=23?=@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4123685.RTihek7mCW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609141515.25539.gerard@seibercom.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: BSDStats project, interesting returns from OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard@seibercom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:17:05 -0000 --nextPart4123685.RTihek7mCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 14 September 2006 13:29, Andy Greenwood wrote: > What about making it a sysinstall option? Not in the base install, but > the option is presented when setting up a new box. > > On 9/14/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 12:53:04PM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > > On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:09, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > One should not conclude anything until the numbers are much larger > > > > than they are now, because small fluctuations from e.g. regional > > > > promotion of bsdstats in one country but not another, or one large > > > > company deploying it on all machine, will dramatically change your > > > > "conclusions". > > > > > > I was just wondering if there is any consensus on adding BSDStats to > > > the base system? If would appear to be a logical step to take so as > > > to insure that all users of FBSD would be counted. An end user could > > > always disable the sending of data by disabling it in the > > > /etc/rc.file. I feel that unless it is part of the base system and > > > turned on by default, too many users will never take part in the > > > reporting process. > > > > I highly doubt that it would be enabled by default in FreeBSD, since > > many of our users (or their employers) would consider it a privacy > > breach to have their systems reporting back automatically. That is sort of what I meant. Have it installed as part of the base system= =20 in much the same manner as portsnap is. The required entry would be placed= =20 in the /etc/rc.conf file but commented out or set to 'NO', which ever=20 method is felt to be better. Perhaps the initial MOTD might reference it=20 and point to where more info regarding it might be found. Just a suggestion and please don't top post. It makes it hard to follow a=20 thread. =2D-=20 Gerard A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read test. Q: Why is top posting such a bad idea? A: Top posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? TOPIC: Posting Etiquette --nextPart4123685.RTihek7mCW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFCapNs3R1WQUU6lgRAmdvAJ44f1vOXsk+E4hkdGpqf47Au0boDwCgx4pq qk2E8blc66yzVVor/NP+B+4= =6w8G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4123685.RTihek7mCW--