From owner-freebsd-current Sun Feb 22 21:32:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20625 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:32:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20615 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA13371; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:18:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:18:55 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Nate Williams cc: Brian Handy , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More breakage in -current as a result of header frobbing. In-Reply-To: <199802230347.UAA26504@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Nate Williams wrote: > > >I think Jordan and Greg both have points they are correct about. What > > >about making a web page that the offender gets put on ... nothing > > >incredibly horrible, just a rogues gallery (I broke current on 00/00/00 > > >with a commit to " ... ". [Followed up with John Dyson as an example] > > > > People are confusing some issues here, and Terry pointed this out to me. > > Chuck is wrong, because John in fact does *not* often break the tree. His > > stuff makes it unstable and crash, but that's not the problem here. > I wasn't trying to complain about John, quite the opposite, I _really_ appreciate his work, and since it's so terribly touchy, I gladly accept any possible excuse for his mistakes (which are often better than the things I do correctly). I am more trying to catch the guy who carelessly sticks mistakes in the tree. and my suggestion was to position such folks for some *mild* chiding. I think that anything more would be too drastic for a volunteer effort, but a little humorous gibe (gee, who's on the top of the awshit list today?) wouldn't do any real harm. John replied himself (surprising me not at all) saying he wouldn't mind, wouldn't take such as too much ... he understood the direction I wanted to go with it, I think. I am going to drop it, tho, if Jordan's that strong against it, I'm not crusading here. > Exactly! I'm not complaining about 'buggy/complex' software, but about > stupid silly bugs. Things not building, include files not working in a > 'build world', stuff that compiles but could never even run, etc... > > Basicaly, simply Q&A stuff is what I'm complaining about, not highly > complex fixes to bugs that don't show up in simply Q&A testing. > > > Nate > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message