From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jan 29 0: 7:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-168.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1960B37B417 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from topperwein (topperwein [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0T867G44220; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:06:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:06:01 -0500 (EST) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: Nate Williams Cc: Chad David , "M. Warner Losh" , Subject: Re: Transmissions :) Was: Firewall config non-intuitiveness In-Reply-To: <15445.48220.670641.705228@caddis.yogotech.com> Message-ID: <20020129025244.M42962-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't subscribe to -chat, but it's funny that this particular message made it into my inbox anyway, what with me unintentionally becoming very, very familiar with the transmissions of three different motorcycles ('82 Roadster, '91 ZX-11, and '75 Honda CB360T. My '77 BMW is due for an infamous spline lube...hmm). On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Nate Williams wrote: > [...good reasons for a clutch...easier to clutchless-shift a vehicle > that has no synchros, such a big truck or a motorcycle...] A good (sadly, departed) friend of mine broke the clutch cable on his '78 BMW R100/7 a short way out of Cape May, NJ. I shall never forget his ritual of stalling the bike at stoplights, dropping it into first (rocking back and forth to get it to engage), then thumbing the starter with the bike in gear when the light turned green, until the engine caught and the bike suddenly lurched forward. (He rode all the way to Cranford that way, some 90-100 miles.) I was unable to repeat this feat on the '77 BMW R100/7 that I purchased from his widow, when the clutch cable popped in Burgettstown, PA (the starter on this bike is nowhere near as stout as the one on the '78). Fortunately, a very helpful fellow drove me up to an independent Harley shop a few miles up the road, where the proprietor worked his butt off to fabricate a clutch cable for me and only charged me $25 for the effort. I popped the clutch cable on my '75 Honda CB360T one fine day on my way to work. I rode it home at the end of the day, shifting clutchless the entire 40 miles. Starting on a hill was interesting: find neutral as you coast to a stop at a red light, dismount (letting the bike idle), and, when the light turns green, run as fast as you can, leap aboard, into 1st, and gas it hard so it doesn't stall. It helps that the bike weighs significantly under 400 pounds. My last two main rides ('91 ZX-11, 2001 Suzuki Hayabusa) have had hydraulic clutches. No worries there, 'cept that the fluid on the 'busa gets contaminated very quickly (for some odd reason, Suzuki neglected to use a dust boot on the slave cylinder. One of the more popular practical mods for this bike is to fabricate a dust boot from an old piece of inner tube and some rubber cement.). On another occasion--for grins--I clutchless shifted a '91 S-10 pickup just to see if I could do it. That pickup sported a crummy Borg-Warner T5 (with synchros) and, as Nate observed about synchronized transmissions, it was a real chore to shift that beast clutchless. I only did it a few times on one occasion. Bikes are *much* easier. Go figure: lots of geek talk on the MC lists I'm on, so I find MC talk on a geek list! :-) -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message