From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 23 03:34:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14351 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:34:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14337; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806231034.DAA14337@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: I want my old binutils back! In-Reply-To: <199806221749.TAA00504@jaguar.domestic.de> from Joachim Kuebart at "Jun 22, 98 07:49:43 pm" To: joki@kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Joachim Kuebart) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Joachim Kuebart who wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running an ELF world for three days now and I really want my old > binutils back! Not only is the source code readable while the new ones > are huge and ugly, it also needs so much Makefile twiddling (e.g. ld > switches -T and -O, the latter of which I have found no replacement > for). > > Not to speak of manpages that occasionally use ten pages where FreeBSD > was content with two. > > So my question is: does anyone plan to migrate FreeBSD's binutils > to ELF or was part the motivation to switch to ELF the ability to > use the original GNU binutils? Welcome to a GNUinfected world :) Part of our goal was to get in the new binutils, because our old one is lacking behind, and nobody seems to care enough about it to get it up to snuff. The other part is that we could gain from the possibilities in the ELF format that we do not have under a.out. Adding ELF support to the old binutils would probably bloat that to huge proportions too, and push us even further away from the mainstream line of GNU tools. So, we really have no choice as to stick with the new binutils, as sad as it might be. Unless someone comes up with an alternative preferably under a BSD licence, THAT would move things around quite alot.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message