From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Mar 13 2:18:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [194.228.200.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C2637B405 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 02:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g2DAIEt11415 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:18:14 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.9a) with ESMTP id 2002031311140377:181 ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:14:03 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2DAVni67056 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:31:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:31:49 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: loose packages Message-ID: <20020313103148.GY63612@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20020312155327.ABE2E5F803@postfix2-2.free.fr> <20020312164736.GR63612@roman.mobil.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 03/13/2002 11:14:03 AM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 03/13/2002 11:14:09 AM, Serialize complete at 03/13/2002 11:14:09 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > To: Roman Neuhauser > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: loose packages > From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) > Date: 12 Mar 2002 12:25:04 -0800 please do respect MFT headers in my messages. :) > Roman Neuhauser writes: > > > From: mess-mate > > > Sorry, this is not the solution. > > > To do this there must be packages in /usr/ports/distfiles or > > > anywhere, isn't ? > > > > Yes. Like on the internet. If you do > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde2 > > # make install > > it'll fetch the necessary tarballs from internet, place them in > > /usr/ports/distfiles, unpack, compile, and install the software. > > > > > So the only way to reinstal KDE is to do it from my isntall CD, but > > > HOW ? > > > > that's not true. Kris already gave you the correct answer. > > Be nice. sorry if that sounded rude. I still read it as a short, informative, and correct statement. the message I replied to was also an indication that the advice wasn't even tried. correction: the original reply wasn't from Kris Kennaway, as I thought, but from Jeff Jeter (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-questions&m=101578765530802&w=2) > New people may still be under the misapprehension from reading > CD cases and the Handbook that they only need the set of FreeBSD CDs to > use FreeBSD, at least until the next set is released. that's exactly how I use FreeBSD on one machine. :) > To compile a port, you simply change to the directory of the > program you wish to install, type make install, and let the system > do the rest. The full original distribution for each port you build > is retrieved dynamically off the CDROM or a local FTP site, ... this is also described in ports(7), and the Handbook. > Mr. mess-mate is learning the truth the discouraging way. I think the > intro stuff should warn upfront that users of the OS are very apt to be > significantly hindered by broken or quickly obsoleted software if they > don't have a good Internet connection. Maybe that should go without > saying, but I don't think so. I've found myself "needing" to download > MUCH more than I ever did with Linux. haven't used linux that much, I can't comment on this. > I suspect that many on dial-up find it intolerable. I don't know what > can be done about it except to stop telling newbies they need to run a > full cvsup and ports upgrade every time they have a problem (or even > regularly). It is good advice for some, but I'm sure it drives others > away before they learn how to avoid the frequent downloading. well, I use FreeBSD on a machine with *no* internet connection, and barring the occasional transfer of fresh vim sources (patches) on a floppy, it's been a painless experience: GENERIC 4.4-RELEASE, Xfree86-4.1.0 (package), blackbox. I avoid behemoths like KDE where I can, so I don't have many problems people insisting on using such stuff have. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 11:03AM up 13 days, 12:10, 20 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.12, 0.08 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message