From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 15 13:05:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B24A16A4CF for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmsrelay03.mx.net (cmsrelay03.mx.net [165.212.11.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32EDC43D41 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.130) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 15 Apr 2004 20:05:37 -0000 Received: from optimator.noacks.org [66.139.21.136] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/noackjr@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.13N) with ESMTP id 204iDouFh0437M30; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:05:33 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 66.139.21.136 AUTH noackjr@usa.net optimator.noacks.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA52615F; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:05:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19484-07; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:05:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alumni.rice.edu (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28076103; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:05:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <407EEB09.7080302@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:05:29 -0500 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5+ (Windows/20040312) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: release-engineering branches (was Re: kernel panic in if_ppp.c) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:05:39 -0000 On 4/15/2004 2:13 PM, Robert Watson wrote: > Currently, this fix doesn't fit the charter for the RELENG_5_2 branch, > which is focussed on security-only fixes. However, there's an on-going > discussion of broadening the scope of the current security branches to > release-engineering branches. If this happens, I'll merge it to that > branch also (feel free to remind me if I forget :-). This is a fabulous idea. I know it means a little more work, but I can think of several situations where I had to manually patch a release branch (or run -STABLE or -CURRENT) because I needed a simple bugfix. Broadening the scope to make them release-engineering branches would have saved me from this extra work. I think it increases the "durability" of releases, allowing people to more strictly use just releases. As a person responsible for FreeBSD machines in production, I find this highly desirable. I can see definite complications (like the MFC rules for the branch -- recent changes in commit permissions to require an "Approved by:" line should help, though), but my opinion is that this is worthwhile. Jon Noack