From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:03:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256EA16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:03:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7F1843D31 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from silby@silby.com) Received: (qmail 82762 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 22:03:42 -0000 Received: from niwun.pair.com (HELO localhost) (209.68.2.70) by relay.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 22:03:42 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 209.68.2.70 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:03:40 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Silbersack To: Nate Lawson In-Reply-To: <20040121131001.P3938@root.org> Message-ID: <20040121153443.T593@odysseus.silby.com> References: <200401210150.i0L1oSmg073908@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040121015059.D56100@odysseus.silby.com> <20040121140858.W528@odysseus.silby.com> <20040121131001.P3938@root.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: Colin Percival Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT access X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:03:50 -0000 On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Nate Lawson wrote: > > Very shortly after that, you will realize that *you* have to fix the > > broken code, and that your pet project upon which depends upon this broken > > code will have to be put on the back burner. > > Muagh! (expression of intense dismay). I'm in the middle of that right > now as CPUs need to gain newbus attachments for my cpufreq driver. And I > was just dragged through it finding all the ways APIC ids, ACPI Processor > ids, and PCPU ids can all not line up. > > Actually, working on ACPI has become an exercise in how deep on the stack > I can recurse. I think it started somewhere when I was working on CAM and > my laptop wouldn't suspend correctly and I thought "hmm, let's figure out > why". > > -Nate I think that FreeBSD can best be visualized as a vast desert full of committers who are totally lost. I think that I've only accomplished one of the five things I planned to do when I first got my commit bit. Worse yet, I only remember three of the five. :( Mike "Silby" Silbersack