From owner-cvs-all Sat Aug 28 20: 9:36 1999 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D569215578; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:09:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA60799; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199908290309.UAA60799@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/bin/mkdir mkdir.1 mkdir.c In-Reply-To: from Bill Fumerola at "Aug 28, 1999 04:15:22 pm" To: billf@jade.chc-chimes.com (Bill Fumerola) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mharo@FreeBSD.org (Michael Haro), cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > Log: > > > add verbose flag > > > > Why???? Are you planning to add this to every command. What purpose > > does this serve, or what problem does it work around? > > Do all commits have to work around problems? > Are we so stuck in our ways that we can't just add functionality? Again, answering a question with a question is not going to move the discussion forward very fast. I asked some very simple basic question and got this for an answer.. geee... now I've gone and done it, I've been tagged an `old fart anti-bloat traditionalist''. Just makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over! To answer your questions directly (requoted here for clarity.): > Do all commits have to work around problems? No, but I was hopping that this one did. But it seems it's as I suspected, just a feature added because someone has access to the source code and felt like they wanted it. > Are we so stuck in our ways that we can't just add functionality? Buy all means no. I also do not see this as ``functionality''. Adding a print (*argv) is pretty sick in my book. > Though traditionalists and anti-bloat people will have difficulty > swallowing these commits, it does help debugging and it does help in > scripting. I can not see how mkdir -v helps in debugging, set +v, yes, mkdir -v, no. Using non posix options in scripting makes non portable scipts, and those who write scripts with non portable options become non portable programmers. > There have been a number of PRs requesting this functionality. All PR's should be taken with a grain of salt, these types of requests often come about because someone does not realize that there is a better way that already exists and is fully portable accross all unix variants. > Kudos to Michael for actually doing something about it. It has already been demonstrated many times in the past that applying changes asked for in PR's to close them just for the sake of closing them is not something to be praised for. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message