From owner-freebsd-current Sun Feb 22 22:18:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25468 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA25463 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:18:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0y6rDG-0003wQ-00; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:18:02 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA01148; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:17:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199802230617.XAA01148@harmony.village.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: More breakage in -current as a result of header frobbing. Cc: Nate Williams , Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Feb 1998 09:24:29 PST." <27201.888168269@time.cdrom.com> References: <27201.888168269@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:17:47 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <27201.888168269@time.cdrom.com> "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: : More to the point, it's far more damaging to alienate and potentially : lose an existing volunteer than it is to have the tree occasionally : broken, as much as I might whine about that from time to time. We : have to consider who we are and how we got here - this isn't : commercial software development, as much as we might sometimes try to : emulate it. :-) I hate to jump into the llama spitting that has been going on... personally, i don't have a problem with what has been going on. Ever since the make buildworld target came online, I don't care if tree is broken in -current from time to time. if people bust it and don't fix it in a timely better, then that is a problem. I've not seen that in -current at all. sure people are human and are in need of a pointy hat from time to time. if there is a person who has violated these tennants, i'd expect core to deal with it appropriately. this, after he or she has a long history of needing others to cleam up after them or not respecting the will of core. None of which is currently going on as best as I can tell (I'm not in core). I agree with jordan. I don't think there is a problem here. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message