From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 24 21:53:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B79A106566B for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-arch@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB768FC15 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwLNn-0000LP-Vt for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:53:11 +0200 Received: from 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru ([90.188.88.208]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:53:11 +0200 Received: from vadim_nuclight by 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:53:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <20110819154638.GA75879@over-yonder.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru X-Comment-To: Matthew D. Fuller User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: FreeBSD problems/solutions: voting system & marketing surveys X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:53:13 -0000 Hi Matthew D. Fuller! On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:46:38 -0500; Matthew D. Fuller wrote about 'Re: FreeBSD problems/solutions: voting system & marketing surveys': >> In other words, Foundation must act as an intermediate party >> between those who will work and those who will pay for concrete >> tasks set up by e.g. core@ or by user suggestions/need. >> >> Why it was not done earlier? > Actually, it's my understanding that there are significant legal > issues which prevent the Foundation from acting in this way (taking > targetted donations, acting as an escrow party on specific bounties). If that is the only issue, there must be workaround for this. Circumventing such legal stoppers for good things is what lawyers are paid for. But I am from other country and don't know American law, that is task for someone living in USA. The possible solution is: a developer and company agree privately, then a company donates needed sum to Foundation, and developer signs contract with Foundation for the project as usual, just the sum is known to developer as befor. Foundation does not need to know anything about developer/company relationship here. At the very last, if that couldn't be solved with Foundation at all, it is possible to do alternative solution: a web page (subdomain of freebsd.org?) where ideas and tasks are sorted by priority, there are listed customers and volunteers for each, may be price, and of course contacts: way for them to meet and be paid outside -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Anti-Greenpeace][Sober FreeBSD zealot][http://nuclight.livejournal.com]