From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Mar 31 15:17:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21537 for freebsd-ports-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:17:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21516 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 26938 invoked from network); 31 Mar 1998 23:26:10 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 31 Mar 1998 23:26:10 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032398 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:26:09 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Chuck Robey Subject: Re: Yest one more: devel/crosssco Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-Mar-98 Chuck Robey wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > >> I can accept this reality as ``this is what it is'', but not the >> ``acusation'' that my system is broken. > > That's not supported by the facts, Simon. I can easily make the > building of a port break. Great example in point is gimp. Take the > normal gimp port and install it. After it is installed, make > gimp-devel. The building of gimp-devel will notice parts of the other > gimp on your system, and misconfigure things. When you get gimp-devel > installed, it will not work at all (core dumps or missing features). When I grew up, a program that dumps core was considered broken. If gimp-devel breaks because gimp is installed, then the gimp-devel dependency is that gimp CANNOT be installed. This IS within the scope of FreeBSD ports. If this is not done, then either gimp or gimp-devel are broken. It also tells me there is no way to build a complete ports as once gimp is installed, gimp-devel will break. > It's not the port that's broken here, it's your test environment. If > your being stubborn and saying that all ports should totally ignore > their environment, well, this is not now and never has been true, but if > you won't acknowldege it, I guess your next paragraph (regrettably) > makes sense. I am not being stubborn. I am being inquisitive. You can tell me ``Thisis what it is and that's it'' and I'll accept that. You can change the documentation and specify that ports cannot be built by someone who does not know and manipulate the contents of the packages, or you can say that some packages are broken and you do not want to see it in the list. I really do not care. Aside from telling me that my environment is broken, no one, except Dan, suggested in which way it is broken. > For everyone else, ports _do_ work, within limitations. Within limitations they work here too. NOT ALL ports breake here. Most build just fine. Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message