From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 3 21:28:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF4637B755 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00729; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:28:30 -0700 Message-ID: <398A466E.50431B60@urx.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:28:30 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j mckitrick Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Mailer-Daemon@probity.mcc.ac.uk: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender] References: <20000803140833.A63622@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3989F0FB.69B41A88@urx.com> <20000804000652.A69891@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG j mckitrick wrote: > > > I started calling DD dangerously DUMB. I thought the people that had > > created it had reached their Peter principal and the manufacturers had > > done a dance around them. I really think the manufacturers had gone > > clueless but that is what I had available to purchase. > > Or maybe it stands for Deep Doodoo. I bought this machine a year ago, so > does that mean i have a better chance of having less problems if i need to > format? If you can boot now, you aren't having problems like I was. You only need to eliminate the FreeBSD slice before you sell it. That is if you want to make it easy for the person you sell it to. What I would do then is clean the FreeBSD disk info off using sysinstall and then boot from a Windows startup disk (Win98 if it is large HD) and "fdisk /mbr". From that moment on it doesn't matter because anyone can allocate the disk how ever they want. Adding the "mbr" isn't necessary but it gets around the long wait while the bios is deciding that it hasn't been formatted. All through the long wait, the uninitiated are thinking you sold them junk. You might add a small DOS partition so they can start out the easy way. If it boots, it obviously works :). There was a thread on DD going on in -hackers or someplace. I followed it a little bit. I made some comments because I had 4 year old hardware that wouldn't tolerate it and was ignored. I quit following a useless thread at that point. DD at this point my not be as bad as it was at 2.2.8 when I first encountered the situation. Kent > > jm > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org > Honk if you hate people too. > ------------------------------------------- -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message