From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Sep 25 6:32:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C59157AD; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from lithium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.0.3] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.032 #1) id 11Uqzz-000BFd-00; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:32:19 +0100 Received: (from ben) by lithium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.032 #1) id 11Uqzw-0009BR-00; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:32:16 +0100 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:32:16 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Pat Lynch Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups Message-ID: <19990925133215.A35268@lithium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <199909241014.MAA91015@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ CC list trimmed ] Pat Lynch wrote: > DUL, while I'm not sure whether we should take this to -chat or not since > we are now getting into noise on the -current list, is also a good thing. > simply because noone on a dialup has reason to be sending mail directly to > me, they should be sending it through thier ISP's mail servers. There are reasons not to use an ISP's smarthost. First, I have no idea how long my mail will stay there. Second, if my mail can't be delivered to the other end immediately, I'd rather be able to find out why by checking my logs. Third, my ISP's smarthost has occasionally been blacklisted by ORBS because it relays mail for its customers, some of whom are running open relays. (This is a completely ridiculous action on ORBS' part, IMO, but that's a discussion for somewhere else.) So far at least, I have never had any problems sending mail from my dialup (which has a static IP address -- I think static IP dialups are exempt from many dialup blocking lists), and I hope this will continue. -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message