From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 07:15:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9223F936 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 07:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A6E4324 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 07:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.local (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sB87FPJu030831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 07:15:25 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk sB87FPJu030831 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1418022925; bh=rZ51+cXhTgcBQvpIBVWRXt42Y9oI/j9WChPlFRKEAVs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Mon,=2008=20Dec=202014=2007:15:07=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20problems=20installing=20svg=20pkg =20....|References:=20<5484DC09.2000203@hiwaay.net>=20<5484DC3C.90 60900@hiwaay.net>=20<14a2700039c.cff56e7f331868.307828963701268081 4@bsdjunk.com>=20<5484E102.9060403@hiwaay.net>=20<14a270a7c9d.e9ba 1df8332384.1403959691871347766@bsdjunk.com>=20<5484E2AE.1000105@hi waay.net>=20<44388rqacu.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>|In-Reply-To:=20<44388 rqacu.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>; b=HjWOzi57o+Jg/Oz5+vj8LoQkmwBBS2fsgdLgAo762Wrt3Yrw+kM5yoChC9TOKpQS8 Cfj4+G392zj1+zY1IGZjTsdCQwl7jsi6mfQsIDmRyepjbEwoop5SSKO8CR/YaeY6Ci ucfrL06400Hc7JMEIb0TL1UMSZxYFjvZE/Fo3ivk= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99] claimed to be seedling.local Message-ID: <54854FFB.7030204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:15:07 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems installing svg pkg .... References: <5484DC09.2000203@hiwaay.net> <5484DC3C.9060900@hiwaay.net> <14a2700039c.cff56e7f331868.3078289637012680814@bsdjunk.com> <5484E102.9060403@hiwaay.net> <14a270a7c9d.e9ba1df8332384.1403959691871347766@bsdjunk.com> <5484E2AE.1000105@hiwaay.net> <44388rqacu.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44388rqacu.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Wiudpvv7nCROoMIm0vbwmqFgd29BxLFKG" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:15:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Wiudpvv7nCROoMIm0vbwmqFgd29BxLFKG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/12/2014 00:00, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: >=20 >> Rats !!!! I have been trying to avoid mixing ports & pkg's AMAP >=20 > There is Absolutely No Reason to follow this approach. >=20 > There was, at one time, but that time is now many > years in the past. Mixing pkgs and ports is doable now, but... Yes, with pkg(8) and the new pkg repositories with weekly package updates it is much more feasible to mix standard pkgs and pkgs you compile yourself. However you need to understand that - - Standard packages have the default options settings. This means that where there are alternate dependency choices then the default dependencies are what you're going to get from the standard pkgs. - There's a delay of 4--5 days while the standard pkgs are compiled, and they are on a weekly cycle, so your local ports tree may well be up to 10 days ahead of what's available from the pkg repos. The first of these is a structural problem in the ports, in that package dependencies are 'baked in' as being on exact versions of the upstream pkg dependencies at compile time. This contrasts with the flexibility available before compiling. In practice this means that substituting your own-built pkgs works best for leaf ports. The second is usually pretty harmless and would tend to only affect a few ports most of the time. However, on occasion there will be wide-scale changes in the ports which have a more significant impact. The recent changes from getopts to getopts-runtime and to the way perl ports are installed are cases in point. You can work round it by always checking out the ports tree using the revision that was current on the previous Wednesday night. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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