From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 24 22:16:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0C2106566C for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-arch@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A6C8FC12 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwLkM-00022F-D7 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:16:30 +0200 Received: from 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru ([90.188.88.208]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:16:30 +0200 Received: from vadim_nuclight by 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:16:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <810527321.20110819123700@serebryakov.spb.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru X-Comment-To: Lev Serebryakov User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:16:31 -0000 Hi Lev Serebryakov! On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:37:00 +0400; Lev Serebryakov wrote about 'Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve': >> 3. Kernel features for complex network solutions (netgraph, carp, ipfw). >> The niche for routers & traffic analysis is still ours. It would be >> nice to take e.g. pfSense and agree with some vendor (Netgear, >> D-Link, etc) to put on sale hardware with FreeBSD inside. > What about 10G routing? Here are reports about full-bandwidth 10G routing on modern > Intel NICs with Linux (and multi-core server), but I didn't see any > such data for FreeBSD, and somebody says, that Intel drivers and > network stack is not so good parallel in FreeBSD. "Too narrow is their circle, so terribly far they are from people". The 10G routing is definetely not a critical FreeBSD problem, actual for broad user masses. What percentage of even Linux users do have it? I am currently working as admin of small Linux HPC cluster - MPI, Infiniband, you know, 10G/40G. That area is unknown to average Linux user: all that they know is that Linux is used on such computers (Top-500), but that's all, just a bit of proudness, not something real. When they come to me try to use it there is little help for them that's Linux too :-) Everyday needs are very different. -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Anti-Greenpeace][Sober FreeBSD zealot][http://nuclight.livejournal.com]