From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 16:56:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D0516A417 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+PV=46c18da6@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B1913C494 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+PV=46c18da6@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450EFD0562 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:56:37 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071027175637.768736df@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071027103839.4a9393da@makeworld.com> References: <4722BAC1.9030906@optonline.net> <20071027103839.4a9393da@makeworld.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:56:48 -0000 On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:38:39 -0500 Chris wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400 > "E. J. Cerejo" wrote: > > > Not anymore! Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of > > those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's > > because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work. It is > > not fun any more! Always an issue, either a port conflicts with > > another port or it fails all together. I have forgotten the last > > time I updated my ports without any issues. Today scrollkeeper is > > conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory. > > Go figure. Those were the days when it used to work. > > This is one of the main reasons users are having a serious look at > Linux distros like Fedora or some Debian-ish ones. > > I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to > tell y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot > yum update/upgrade. Of course it is, that's because someone has already done the work, equivalent to what's in UPDATING, when the packages were built. If you want to build from source you have to do it yourself. > I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports - > then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious. Sounds like rose-tinted glasses to me. Upgrading Gnome used to involve running an script in single-user mode, and by the admission of the authors, even that wasn't reliable. UPDATING is no more complex now than it was in the past, less so if anything.