From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 22 04:05:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528C616A4CE; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 04:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD7543D39; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 04:05:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) i0MC5bDu064074; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:05:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0MC5bvE057043; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:05:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i0MC5Wrf057040; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:05:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:05:32 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Silbersack Message-ID: <20040122120532.GA57007@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200401210150.i0L1oSmg073908@repoman.freebsd.org> <6.0.1.1.1.20040121072744.042fd958@imap.sfu.ca> <20040121015059.D56100@odysseus.silby.com> <20040121093008.O3009@root.org> <20040121140858.W528@odysseus.silby.com> <20040121131001.P3938@root.org> <20040121153443.T593@odysseus.silby.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040121153443.T593@odysseus.silby.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Colin Percival cc: Nate Lawson Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT access X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:05:45 -0000 On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 04:03:40PM -0600, Mike Silbersack wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Nate Lawson wrote: > > > > Very shortly after that, you will realize that *you* have to fix the > > > broken code, and that your pet project upon which depends upon this broken > > > code will have to be put on the back burner. > > > > Muagh! (expression of intense dismay). I'm in the middle of that right > > now as CPUs need to gain newbus attachments for my cpufreq driver. And I > > was just dragged through it finding all the ways APIC ids, ACPI Processor > > ids, and PCPU ids can all not line up. > > > > Actually, working on ACPI has become an exercise in how deep on the stack > > I can recurse. I think it started somewhere when I was working on CAM and > > my laptop wouldn't suspend correctly and I thought "hmm, let's figure out > > why". > > > > -Nate > > I think that FreeBSD can best be visualized as a vast desert full of > committers who are totally lost. Yes, and their means of communication is about as advanced as a pair of empty pea cans connected with a piece of string. For reasons that escape me we call that email ;) -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org