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Subject: Re: apple moving to x86
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David Kelly wrote:

>> Adaptec doesn't have the worlds best reputation for allowing people  
>> to write drivers (or even for writing non-buggy firmware) but I  seem 
>> to recall that the Macs that ship with SCSI support use an  Adaptec 
>> chipset...  oh, on looking, it appears that the IIci uses  an NCR 
>> SCSI chipset... specifically, the 5380 which was found on  many 
>> commodity PC SCSI cards too.
>
>
> I don't recall Apple ever using Adaptec chips. Their first ethernet  
> card (NuBus) was done by 3-Com and so marked. Recently (several years  
> ago) Apple offered a high end Atto SCSI card with new systems. Power  
> Computing was the one who shipped possibly the world's first Adaptec  
> 2930's, years before a much improved 2930 hit the boxed shelves.
>
> IIRC the first PowerPC Macs had two SCSI busses, one was NCR and the  
> other was a combo AMD Lance ethernet and SCSI.

Yeah, looks like I was mistaken on that point... I wonder where I saw an 
Adaptec chip and was surprised then...