From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 24 22:30:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7716106566B for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-arch@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108FE8FC19 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwLxl-0007Hl-5i for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:30:21 +0200 Received: from 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru ([90.188.88.208]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:30:21 +0200 Received: from vadim_nuclight by 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:30:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <1313785806.56747.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <175270279.98941.1313793515391.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru X-Comment-To: Rick Macklem User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:30:24 -0000 Hi Rick Macklem! On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:38:35 -0400 (EDT); Rick Macklem wrote about 'Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve': > One thing I thought I'd bring up (since I haven't seen it > mentioned yet) is Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. I haven't tried it, > so I'm talking through my hat a bunch, but... > It seems to me that FreeBSD should do what it can to support > this effort. Why? Well, I suspect a lot of why organizations No. FreeBSD has limited resources. We need to: a) fix our own problems b) develop our own unique features (see my message to Robert Watson) And supporting Debian will mean wasting resources which could be spent to these. This will effectively kill FreeBSD as a separate entity if our problems will stay unfixed and get worse due to this. Leave this work to Debian: they already have a wide community and many resources. Any Linux distro has more resources than BSD because they just only pack someone's software, and we have to also actually *develop* those software (most of all, kernel and libc). -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Anti-Greenpeace][Sober FreeBSD zealot][http://nuclight.livejournal.com]