From owner-freebsd-chat  Sat Jan 18 17:42:15 1997
Return-Path: <owner-chat>
Received: (from root@localhost)
          by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA11622
          for chat-outgoing; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:42:15 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22])
          by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA11576
          for <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:41:38 -0800 (PST)
Received: from freeside.fc.net (reclaimed.agis.net) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA16164
  (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:38:44 -0800
Received: from rider.fc.net (rider.fc.net [206.224.74.198]) by freeside.fc.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA22115; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:35:48 -0600
Received: from papillon.lemis.de (papillon.lemis.de [192.109.197.159]) by rider.fc.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05121; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:37:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>
Received: (grog@localhost) by papillon.lemis.de (8.8.4/8.6.12) 
       id MAA00541; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 12:18:31 -0600 (CST)
Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany
Phone: +49-6637-919123
Fax:   +49-6637-919122
Message-Id: <199701181818.MAA00541@papillon.lemis.de>
Subject: Re: Commerical applications (was: Development and validation tools...)
In-Reply-To: <1535.853468003@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jan 16, 97 06:26:43 pm"
To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 12:18:30 -0600 (CST)
Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Chat)
Reply-To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
Precedence: bulk

Jordan K. Hubbard writes:
>> maybe this should really be moved to chat ?
>
> Done
>
>> I talked to a German journalist at a trade show last year (from iX,
>> one of the better UNIX rags here), and basically told him that they
>> had too much of a Linux bent. His reply was basically "we can't publish
>> articles we don't have."
>
> Precisely.
>
>> The German magazines seem to think that there are only 4 OSes: DOS,
>> WINDOWS, NT and Linux. Whenever they talk about a non-M$ OS (although
>> one can argue that M$ doesn't have any real OS), then it's ALWAYS Linux.
>> Even the UNIX rags are like that.
>
> I think this is our fault more than anything else.  As you just noted,
> if nobody provides them with articles to publish about FreeBSD then
> the OS world is going to look somewhat smaller to someone in the
> publishing business.

I don't have a problem with writing articles about FreeBSD.  I *do*
have a problem with iX, for whom I wrote a number of articles
(including, to the best of my knowledge, the very first article in any
magazine about BSD/386).  I find the people stubborn, arrogant and
stupid.  I have therefore decided not to have anything to do with them
again.

> The question is, what are we going to do about it?  I'd love to write
> articles for every magazine on the planet, but I haven't got the
> time. :-(

Well, yes, maybe I have that problem.

Greg