From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 5 15:26:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21C01569A for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA24337; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:24:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-56.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.56) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma024335; Tue Oct 5 17:24:29 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991005171942.014d2a80@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:19:42 -0500 To: David Gilbert From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: More on the crashes already mentioned. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <14329.64871.579761.476450@trooper.velocet.net> References: <199910051323.GAA17221@cwsys.cwsent.com> <14329.4421.847994.918399@trooper.velocet.net> <199910051323.GAA17221@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:30 AM 10/5/99 -0400, David Gilbert wrote: >Well... the same machine had an 80 day uptime before the upgrade >(running 3.0-RELEASE). We have also tried alternate motherboards. >Now... all this hardware is K6-2/400's --- it appears that substantial >amounts of new code playing with processor bits has been introduced >between 3.2 and 3.3 Try a different CPU. Another K6-2 (different speed) might point out problems with the code changes. Check for BIOS updates and errata for the board. Good cooling? >I also tried cutting the memory in half. The system had been running >as configured for 80ish days w/o reboot. It has 2x 128M in it, which >I reduced to 1x 128M... if anything, it crashed faster (although I >can't say this for sure). Did you just pull one or pull one and later swap with the other. Presume you did, but just to be sure. 8-) >The machine is running 100+ apaches that are ~88M virtual size. > >It's happening every 5 minutes now, it seems. sigh. Latest Apache I'll presume. Only web services? Any other machines with similar hardware *not* running Apache? With only half the memory compile in the needed modules, disable DSO's, and do not use buffered logs (takes more memory), but judging by the size you have done (or not done) this. You could try reducing max clients temporarily and see if that helps the problem with either 1/2 or all of the memory. Not trying to point a finger at Apache, but have seen a few problems on web (Apache) servers in the past that were pure hell to track down. Otherwise rock solid. No panic, no core, big hassle. luck! Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message