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From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
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Subject: Re: IBM's intentions with JFS (was: IBM suing (was: RMS Suing was 
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Nils Holland wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 03:46:46AM -0800, Terry Lambert stood up and spoke:

[ ... ]

> > See above.  For it to be useful, it has to be easy to use as the
> > default FS.  The IBM people recognize this as well, as regards JFS
> > usage in Linux (see the IBM white papers for reference).

[ ... ]

> In the end, whatever gets done, I'd suggest that any unclear implications
> of any futher move be investigated into beforehand, because else we could
> face some very unpleasant problems in the end...

These putative problems are predicated on the idea that the
resulting code would be distributed as binaries, and I don't think
anyone would do that for fear of the consequences.

Remember that other people have other definitions of "useful".
For example, this would be an incredibly useful project for someone
whose sole purpose was to learn FreeBSD internals, particularly
in the VFS and VM areas.


-- Terry

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