From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 6 21:13:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C9516A41B; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1310713C45A; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (obsolete.xs4all.nl [82.95.250.254]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l96Ks5tR014873; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:54:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l96Ks5O6061051; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:54:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l96Ks4RF061050; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:54:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:54:04 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jack Vogel Message-ID: <20071006205404.GA61023@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200710052249.l95Mn9Nb071852@repoman.freebsd.org> <20071005231538.GA24016@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2a41acea0710051705l217224b6vc705dc6139b94e3b@mail.gmail.com> <20071006004634.GA24962@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <47073AF5.1010109@samsco.org> <86d4vspk8j.fsf@ds4.des.no> <47079A5C.3090109@samsco.org> <86odfcvx3x.fsf@ds4.des.no> <2a41acea0710061259n23c19747tea9f210d1ce709fc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0710061259n23c19747tea9f210d1ce709fc@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Scott Long , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Jack F Vogel , Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files kern.pre.mk src/sys/dev/em LICENSE e1000_80003es2lan.c e1000_80003es2lan.h e1000_82540.c e1000_82541.c e1000_82541.h e1000_82542.c e1000_82543.c e1000_82543.h e1000_82571.c e1000_82571.h e1000_82575.c ... X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:13:55 -0000 Quoting Jack Vogel, who wrote on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 12:59:24PM -0700 .. > On 10/6/07, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > > Scott Long writes: > > > Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes: > > > > We used to have a principle that commit bits were granted to individuals > > > > on their individual merit, not simply because they represented a vendor > > > > and were paid to work on drivers for that vendor's hardware. > > > Are you implying that Jack has no merit? That's an unfortunate > > > assertion. What evidence do you have to support that? > > > > It is you who implied rather strongly that Jack is neither more nor less > > than an Intel representative. You spoke of "lecturing a vendor" when > > all Erik did was point out or own rules to a *committer*. > > > > > > We also used to have a principle that changes should be tested > > > > before being committed, especially to -STABLE. > > > I guess you missed that part where Jack said that the changes had > > > undergone extensive testing. > > > > I guess you missed the part where his commit broke the tinderbox, > > because he clearly did not test the DEVICE_POLLING case. > > > > No one is perfect, and YUP, we don't test POLLING, so here I am > on my weekend fixing it, I don't get paid for that, and I also don't > get paid for all the advocation I do for this community to Intel > management. Thankless job, all this. But I hope you know that your work is well appreciated by the crowd 'out there'. cheers, Wilko -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org