From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 07:45:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 3122FF3E; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:45:15 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Adam Weinberger Subject: Re: svn commit: r364739 - in head: . sysutils sysutils/syslog-ng-devel sysutils/syslog-ng-devel/files Message-ID: <20140813074515.GB16368@FreeBSD.org> References: <53ea6d76.6eb9.5599e7c9@svn.freebsd.org> <53EA6EBB.2010802@marino.st> <53EA7155.4060606@FreeBSD.org> <53EA7416.5080008@marino.st> <88E432AA-8DC7-4C8A-B530-C75AF32952AF@adamw.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <88E432AA-8DC7-4C8A-B530-C75AF32952AF@adamw.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert , Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:45:15 -0000 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:22:46PM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: > On 12 Aug, 2014, at 16:07, John Marino wrote: > > To me, they are more trouble than they are worth especially when the > > ports are reset. I think there should be a pretty high bar for devel > > ports, and maintainer need to justify why they want to convert the > > FreeBSD community into a testers for third party software (which is the > > reason I've heard). > > I disagree. Many people are happy running bleeding-edge stuff. Many people > PREFER running bleeding-edge stuff. I bet that we have users who prefer > FreeBSD over *BSD because they can always get the latest and greatest. I would say that it makes even more sense to compare with GNU/Linux distros, but the thing is that it has nothing to do with -devel ports. Surely we all love FreeBSD to have Python 2.7.8 and Google's protobuf 2.5.0 (while with some LTS Ubuntu I'm bound to Python 2.6.5 and protobuf 2.2.0). But this is all because Ports are always[*] -CURRENT, not because of -devel ports. ./danfe [*] Well, there are quarterly branches if one wants it to feel like Debian stable without the quality control; IMHO they are of no use and should be ignored altogether.