From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 2 9:47:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-168.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D248237B419 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:47:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from topperwein (topperwein [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fB2HlhN81323 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:47:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:47:37 -0500 (EST) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: syscons X support (was: X and non-X graphics in 4.4-STABLE: system hangs) In-Reply-To: <20011202210037.A591@grosbein.pp.ru> Message-ID: <20011202124613.Q81190-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 08:44:35AM -0500, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > > > It seems to be offtopic, but S3 Trio3D worked just fine with 4.3-RELEASE > > > and Windows95OSR2. If it is not buggy it should work with 4.4-STABLE. > > *Should*, yes, in an ideal world, but how much time do you want > > the committers to spend supporting crap hardware? > > The one of benefits of FreeBSD is stability even with old hardware, "old" != "crap" > 4.4-STABLE runs perfectly with 486SX-25/8Mb RAM/200M HDD/NE2000 NIC > and I love it for that :) > > > It's also possible, for that matter, that your S3 Trio3D is > > flaking out, given your experience that building and booting > > 4.3-RELEASE didn't fix your problem. > > No, it still runs as usual with Win95 (dual-boot home computer). > Well, now I remember that I used XFree86 3.3.5 with 4.3-RELEASE and > 4.1.0 was built with 4.4-RC here. Perhaps, it is partial incompatibility > between syscons driver and X 4.1.0. But this is very strange: system runs > just fine until I try to use console graphics. It's enough just to > switch from X to console, switch here to VESA_800x600, switch back > to 80x25 then switch to X and system hangs here, in 80x25 and > I cannot even break to kernel debugger. > I suspect bugs in syscons' support for X. Could be. 4.1.0's driver support is not a proper superset of 3.3.x. Older hardware may be stuck with 3.3.x, newer hardware requires 4.1.0. In any case, good luck. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message