From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 22 09:57:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EED716A474 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADBB43D8E for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:57:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c59so271530pyc for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:to:subject:cc:content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent:from; b=ipJVgac4IvNKJFl7kmaV1K/w05st+8NZvUjK+iyKpvboCcBpLTg0j8eE9qkwXO/IdOEUbHy16Pa89xx7kqEAROqgH5KIgSdUUKeaCW7883gEyqJJdRgMqFjwuvP/Rtru5nQcs0xyqYRDUDsCjZlGisRaW+mGPdQ3j8eSgN4zi6M= Received: by 10.35.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr901157pym; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carpetsmoker.ictwerkplaats.org ( [80.126.94.163]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 55sm752688pyf.2006.06.22.02.57.06; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:54:54 -0000 To: "Daniel A." , "Kevin Kinsey" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44984C2E.50602@daleco.biz> <4499DFD7.6070105@dienub.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4499DFD7.6070105@dienub.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.00 (FreeBSD) From: Martin Tournoy Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: OT: Employee 'Net Usage, proxy server, restrictions, legal, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:57:09 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:09:59 -0000, Daniel A. wrote: > By the way, look what I just received in my inbox: >> We're sorry, the following message could not be delivered: >> This is due to the fact that your message may contain >> unacceptable language or inappropriate material as outlined >> by our company email policy. >> Message: B4499deb50001.000000000001.000f.mml >> From: alive@dienub.org >> To: relyod@co-operation-ireland.ie >> Subject: Re: OT: Employee 'Net Usage, proxy server, restrictions, >> legal, etc. >> Please remove any questionable content and resend your message. >> Email filtering provided by NETRIPLEX. >> http://www.netriplex.com > > I, personally, believe that such cases of filtering are just plain > outright immature and over the board. If you don't trust your employees, > fire them and hire someone you trust. I don't see any offensive material...? Anyway Daniel is absolutly right here. You should of seen the things we figured out to get around filtering at school, even the lusers managed to do so... I work in a small company, six employees at the moment, and everyone has his own workstation. We've got several do's and don't's, and they are broken on a regular base. We've had people using MSN (even though chatting is allowed, but not with the MSN client) downloading movies, even replacing the legal, paid for version of windows with their own illegal downloaded one (beats me why someone would want to do that...) I suppose we can start blocking stuff, what would the result be? People will spend even more company time on personal things, trying to get around the blockade. Besides, how harmfull is it? As for your kids I believe it's better to allow them full access to the internet. Like Daniel said, your kids will get around the block anyway. > don't want the kids to learn any four-letter words from the 'Net before > the age of majority [wish > me luck!]) I think it's better to learn your kids those words yourself, and explain that it's not very nice to say them. They probably have learned them already. I've been a boyscout leader for a couple of years, 5 to 7 year old kids, and each and every one of them knew not just a few, but the full range of words already. And when it comes to pornographic or violent material, it's probably best to have a chat like Daniel said, and skim through the history list every now and then. When they really want to see naked ladies, they will, at their friend's, or they'll buy a playboy, lots of alternatives there.