From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 11 16:29:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D109A37B401; Sun, 11 May 2003 16:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484E643F85; Sun, 11 May 2003 16:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with SMTP id <2003051123293105200a7fbse>; Sun, 11 May 2003 23:29:31 +0000 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 16:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20030511232220.GA66670@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: <20030511162527.B13689@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <20030511151529.K13689@znfgre.qbhto.arg> <20030511232220.GA66670@dragon.nuxi.com> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: sysinstall non-USB mouse dialog confusing X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 23:29:34 -0000 On Sun, 11 May 2003, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 03:22:00PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > > Since I think the pendulum has swung over towards USB mice being the > > majority, I think a better flow for this would be something like: > > I don't argue that the double negative is confusing. Cool, we agree on that much. :) > I don't think you can claim any pendulum shifting yet. Looking around my > home office and a large 200 person area at work; USB mice are still an > order of magnitude less prevalent (except with laptops). I don't think > you can use such an argument for swaying things that way. Well, I would disagree that USB mice aren't much more common nowadays, but the other line of reasoning that I neglected to make explicity in my post is that OTHER usb devices are becoming much more common as well, and there is not currently an "enable usb support" dialog in sysinstall other than the very confusing one for mice. Therefore, I think the more generalized wording below is more suitable. > > Enable USB support for mice, and other USB devices? [Yes] No > > Enable support for a PS/2 (non-USB) mouse? Yes [No] > > The defaults should be "No" for both. The pre-USB mouse default of "no" > was most likely with servers in mind. I don't see any more servers > having USB mice than had PS/2 mice. I don't think sysinstall is generally used for most server installations, however I'm willing to compromise on the defaults if others think the same way. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection