From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 8 13:18:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA12062 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:18:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA12056 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:18:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id WAA08706; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:18:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:18:41 +0100 (MET) To: Nate Williams Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: isa.c References: <199712081829.LAA12105@mt.sri.com> <199712081942.MAA12478@mt.sri.com> <199712081951.MAA12645@mt.sri.com> <199712082041.NAA12889@mt.sri.com> Organization: Gutteklubben Terrasse X-url: http://www.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav) Date: 08 Dec 1997 22:18:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: Nate Williams's message of Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:41:59 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 49 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams writes: > > > > > You'd be much better off upgrading to 2.2.5R, as I suspect his patches > > > > > apply to that pretty cleanly. > > > > I have a list of good reasons for not upgrading to 2.2.2R, and a > > > > longer one for not upgrading to 2.2.5R. > > > And those would be? > > Amongst other items, lack of a suitable backup device > No need to backup. It's a piece of cake to upgrade w/out doing a In my book, there is a difference between what is possible and what is actually advisable. For instance, it is quite possible to just switch your computer off when you're done, without thrashing your file systems; however, most people prefer to quit all applications, log out, and shut down properly, because they want to be *sure* not to thrash their file systems. Similarly, although it is possible to install 2.2.5 over 2.2.1 without any problems, most people will prefer to back up their data first. Some day, IMCFT, I'll try what you suggest, then 'accidentally' screw up, lose everything, and watch you trying very hard not to tell me I should have backed up. By the way, one of the other items on my list is that I need to repartition my hard drive. I'm sure you'll tell me I can do that without backing up, too. > backup/restore. Just download the sources, do a 'make world', re-config "Just download the sources" is easier said than done with a v34 modem. > and install a new kernel, and reboot. A few hours work, but certainly > not rocket science. What if my system is slightly "customized", and things stop working after the upgrade? Amongst other things, there is quite a bit of brain damage in 2.2.1 boot scripts, which I have tried to remedy by custom- izing said scripts. > > and reports of degraded performance in 2.2.5R. > I haven't seen many of those reports, and I haven't experienced any I know people (*not* FOAFs, but real people with names and faces) who have experienced quite serious problems, amongst other things with SCSI performance, after upgrading from 2.2.1R to 2.2.5R. -- * Finrod (INTJ) * Unix weenie * dag-erli@ifi.uio.no * cellular +47-92835919 * RFC1123: "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send" # unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep