From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 19 20:49:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD5316A4DA; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp7.server.rpi.edu (smtp7.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F12043D4C; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:49:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp7.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k7JKmq8Q032389; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:48:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060819083245.GA23574@comp.chem.msu.su> References: <200608181210.k7ICAIme084410@repoman.freebsd.org> <86ejvet9m6.fsf@xps.des.no> <20060818143310.GA14203@comp.chem.msu.su> <20060818143508.GA2545@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20060818153744.GA14726@comp.chem.msu.su> <20060818154240.GA3050@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20060819083245.GA23574@comp.chem.msu.su> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:48:51 -0400 To: Yar Tikhiy , Brooks Davis From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Cc: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: moving pgrep and pkill X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:49:11 -0000 At 12:32 PM +0400 8/19/06, Yar Tikhiy wrote: >On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > > | On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > > > | > In a commit msg, Yar Tikhiy writes: > > > > | > > Log: > > > > | > > The ps(1) command is unfriendly to scripts by default > > > > | > > because it limits the width of its output to the value > > > > | > > of $COLUMNS, or what TIOCGWINSZ reports, or 79 columns. > > > > | > > We should specify -ww to ps(1) so that it removes the > > > > | > > limit and prints lines in full. Otherwise very long > > > > | > > command pathnames could be mishandled, e.g., > > > > | > > by _find_processes(). > > > > | > > > > > | > or perhaps _find_processes() should use pgrep(1) instead > > > > | > of ps(1). > > > > | > > > > | I considered that but had to stick to ps(1) because pgrep > > > > | was in /usr/bin while ps was in /bin. The use of /usr/bin > > > > | tools should be very limited in rc.subr(8). OTOH, pgrep > > > > | uses /lib libs only, which makes it possible to transfer > > > > | pgrep+pkill to /bin if we can stand the growth of / by > > > > | some 50 kbytes. > > > > > > > > I think that's appropriate since pgrep is such an obvious > > > > fit for this sort of thing. I think we'll want to consider > > > > compatability symlinks due to existing hardcoded paths in > > > > scripts. I do not mind if `pgrep' and `pkill' are moved to /bin. Note that these were added to /usr because that's where they exist on NetBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris and Linux. So we're not just talking about hardcoded-paths in a few scripts that FreeBSD users might have written for use only on FreeBSD. So, I expect we will want symlinks to remain in /usr, forever, if we move the programs to /bin. (Moving them does seem reasonable to me. I'm just saying why they were put in /usr in the first place...) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA