From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 4 12:58:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2C237B401 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABB2943FA3 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:58:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willybaby12345@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO user) (willybaby12345@64.58.141.114 with login) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2003 20:58:39 -0000 Message-ID: <034c01c2faec$f6cd7100$728d3a40@user> From: "William Ashworth" To: "Cliff" References: <027e01c2fae7$128c9e30$6801a8c0@TECH2><02cd01c31272$2113e6f0$728d3a40@user><029601c2fae9$46fffa20$6801a8c0@TECH2> <02f901c31274$607c6fe0$728d3a40@user> <033601c31276$5af9ff40$728d3a40@user> <02d201c2faec$60acabf0$6801a8c0@TECH2> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:58:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup/RAID dillema X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Ashworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 20:58:40 -0000 Let me take this a step further. There's an almost free (free for the first couple of zones or DNS entries) service on the Net called www.zoneedit.com. I would read their pages on services. Intead of using your ISP as the main nameserver on your IPs, you should point domain to Zone Edit. That way zone edit forwards requests to your main server. If server #1 is unavailable, then redirect service to #2. Just a hunch, but I think it's valid. There are other services that do this as well. Thanks, William Ashworth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff" To: "William Ashworth" Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Backup/RAID dillema > That would be fine, except we are looking for more of something that will be > able to get the site back up almost instantly if something happens to it, so > we can do something like replace the drive in there with a copy of it. If we > were on a different host it may be a little more difficult to route traffic > to another place. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Ashworth" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: Backup/RAID dillema > > > > All, > > > > For additional servers and cheaper backup solutions, I HIGHLY recommend > > Tera-Byte in Edmonton, Canada. I have only been with them for about a > year, > > but there;s no bad postings about them on the Net, C I Host screwed me > over > > royally along wiht a few hundred thousand of other clients, and other > people > > are too expensive. Tera-Byte gives you 15gb of data to start and you pay > > the more you use. It's only $35/month > > > > Thanks, > > Will > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Ashworth" > > To: "Cliff" > > Cc: > > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:35 PM > > Subject: Re: Backup/RAID dillema > > > > > > > Cliff, > > > > > > FreeBSD is going to format everything as prepare the OS as far as I am > > > aware. FYI - nowadays, you can get a new hard drive for about $1/mb, so > > > it's really your best bet, however, if your ISP's down, you're screwed, > > > that's where a second server becomes incredibly handy. > > > > > > As far as maybe a low level format or something to start from a factory > > > formatted drive, check the manufacturer for a configuration utility > > (almost > > > EVERY manufacturer has one)...this will let you do a low level format > and > > > restore to pretty much a factory default. > > > > > > RE: CVSup....correct. Just run only hte new files.,...there's special > > > commands you use. Please check the MAN page for this. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Will Ashworth > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cliff" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: Backup/RAID dillema > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a great idea... Do you reccomend something like wiping the > > > extra > > > > drive clean and installing freebsd on it, then just have cvsup run > > locally > > > > every night to transfer all of the files over? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "William Ashworth" > > > > To: "Cliff" > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:19 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Backup/RAID dillema > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cliff, > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you throw another hard drive in and run off of another > > > > > pre-installed IDE channel? Obviously, if you're already using all > > your > > > > > channels, this wouldn't work, but it's probably the cheapest method > > > since > > > > > people normally pay mucho $$$ for bandwidth. > > > > > > > > > > A second server is usually too much $$$ unless you already have a > > second > > > > > need for another server. Using CVSup to another server, however, > > could > > > be > > > > > the answer that you're looking for assuming you have your own > network > > > and > > > > > aren't shelling out mega bucks for a second server. > > > > > > > > > > CVSup updates only files needing to be updated (i.e., the newer > files > > > > > only),...if you want, thus saving bandwidth. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Will Ashworth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Cliff" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:16 PM > > > > > Subject: Backup/RAID dillema > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking for a reliable backup system to be able to have the > > least > > > > > > downtime possible in the case of a disk failure or the likes. My > > host > > > > does > > > > > > not support tape backup for FreeBSD, nor do they support hardware > > IDE > > > > RAID > > > > > > for it. I am down to almost no option besides vinum, but from what > I > > > see > > > > > in > > > > > > the vinum tutorials you must have a fresh install of FreeBSD to be > > > able > > > > to > > > > > > use it in mirroring mode. Does anyone know of a way to have > reliable > > > > data > > > > > > backup that can suit my needs? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > >