From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 30 14:48:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66DB0BB4; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331671A5E; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0829738060; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:48:29 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id RV1i79viQRgP; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57FF83805B; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53610D3B.40401@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:48:27 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Maste Subject: Re: svn commit: r264907 - in head/release: amd64 i386 References: <201404250526.s3P5Q3hS010626@gw.catspoiler.org> <20140425130714.GN49791@glenbarber.us> <53608D19.7060309@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , Aleksandr Rybalko X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:48:30 -0000 On 04/30/14 06:36, Ed Maste wrote: > On 30 April 2014 01:41, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> So, to make universally bootable install media, we have to switch the >> default console driver to newcons. This means we need to finish polishing >> newcons and need to think about what, exactly, the missing pieces are to >> enable it as the default. > There's a Newcons wiki page at https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons with > some details, but I believe the main points are: > > 1. Documentation. We currently have no vt(4) man page so one needs to > be written, and other pages likely need to be updated. Other > documentation (like the handbook) need to be investigated. > 2. Control tools (e.g. kbdmap(1), vidcontrol(1), vidfont(1)) need to > be updated. Alexandr posted a patch for vidcontrol with the subject > "RFT vidcontrol for vt(4)" > 3. Provide console fonts for vt, equivalent to /usr/share/syscons/fonts. > 4. Address some performance issues, especially on certain non-x86 and > low-end hardware, and in virtual machines. > 5. Address boot console priority. > Which of these are blockers before turning it on in GENERIC for wider testing? Point #1 is a must, I think. #2 seems potentially destructive: do we want to have to make them work with both syscons and vt? #5 we've worked around for the time being. #4 would be nice, but maybe wider testing helps with it. It's painfully slow on regular x86 hardware as well -- my brand-new Lenovo laptop for instance. But I think we could switch GENERIC on -CURRENT over only after writing some documentation. -Nathan