From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 15:24:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C91616A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F3B43D31 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:24:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu162-234-100.nc.rr.com [24.162.234.100]) i09NNjTe025297; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:23:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FFF3801.6000107@mindcore.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:23:45 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031129 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shantanoo References: <3FFB7F8F.3010101@mindcore.net> <20040107134537.GA415@dhumketu.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <20040107134537.GA415@dhumketu.homeunix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Commercial Distribution? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 23:24:08 -0000 Shantanoo wrote: >+++ Scott W [freebsd] [06-01-04 22:39 -0500]: >| I know this one may be seen as sacrilege to some, but think about this: >| >| 1. *BSD uses a fairly significant amount of GNU and GPL licensed >| (opposed to the BSD license) code in it. gcc, Perl, XFree86, Apache, >| GNU Make, autoconf, mysql, PostgreSQL, etc etc. While it can be argued >| many/most of these are not part of the core OS, what about: gcc, >| objective c, libreadline, cvs, diff, tar, sort, patch and friends? >| (from /usr/src/gnu and /usr/src/usr.bin ) > >I think PostgreSQL is released under BSD license. >I can't find a line in tar's man page that it is GNU's tar. >Apache's testing platform is FreeBSD. So probably it is release under >BSD license. Will have to check it out though. > >Shantanoo >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > tar builds under /usr/src/gnu/usr.src.tar and AUTHORS credits it as GNU tar. I did note that about the man page, which is odd (although not a big deal). You're correct about Apache, or at least more correct than I was in listing it- Apache uses to use it's own license, and Postgres is in fact a BSD license. That's what I get for relying on memory ;-) That still doesn't remove (IMHO of course) the validity of my statement about calling FreeBSD and OS but Linux not based on licensing- FreeBSD wouldn't exist in it's current incarnation without the use of GPL and GNU software. Nor would Linux. Postgres has existed for almost as long as Linux, but it and Apache both have certainly had a huge amount of effort concentrated on them, not an insignificant amount of which was generated by the fact of more and more Linux (and yes, certainly *BSD, but arguably to a lesser extent) servers, as well as end-users discovering bugs, asking for features etc etc...if I'm not mistaken, IBM has been involved with Apache regardless of licensing, which is certainly a direct result of their 'embracing' of Linux. Note that isn't a slam by far in any ways- I certainly use both on my own servers, and would likely choose *BSD over Linux for client's web and mail/external accessible sites due to the default security being significantly better (which is still checked and changed as needed before someone may make the comment about installing an 'out of box' install to the world ;-), as well as the core install being significantly smaller than the current gen of Linux distros. I just don't like to see fallacy's propgated about either OS... (or any other than Windblows actually ;-) Scott