From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 19 15:03:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16396BC6 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5723206 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-67-138.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.67.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2BBE24CC6; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:03:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s2JF2kdO003311; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:02:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:02:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Gamsjager Subject: Re: FreeBSD is really great.. BUT.. Message-Id: <20140319160246.a0aec5be.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <53297C5C.5030608@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:03:13 -0000 On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:15:30 +0100, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > Well for pure desktop use FreeBSD still doesn't cut it. Allow me to add a personal note: I'm using FreeBSD _exclusively_ on the desktop since 4.0 for entertainment, multimedia, development and testing, even though it's a home desktop computer. I'm more than happy with it because I could do what the "cool kids" could do _before_ they could do it, and even _after_ they stopped being able to do it, even with limited, primitive and el cheapo hardware. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. :-) > I am still trying > to get any form of Eclipse running here in 10Stable. Have been using Eclipse previously without any problems, but no experience on v10. Address the list with more details to improve that situation. > The gfx driver lack > behind (tho we are catching up) and things like GNOME3 etc. it's so Linux > centric that using a newer WM on FreeBSD is like using a smartphone in the > middle of the desert. You're comparing things and stuff here. Gnome 3 isn't a window manager. It's a desktop system that is, as you said, quite Linux-oriented, that's why the port to a different operating system (which FreeBSD is in relation to Linux) requires time, so functionality is lacking. There are other desktop systems that tend to work better than Gnome 3, for example Xfce 4 or LXDE. Both Xfce and LXDE are quite new, I think LXDE is even newer than Gnome or KDE. :-) If you want to use a _real_ window manager, maybe even a tiling WM, there's plenty of choice. In the middle of a desert, I would not want to use a smartphone because the battery is usually empty and the range of a satellite phone would be more suitable when in a desert. But it's probably a matter of priority if you just want to update your "Facebook" status (to "I'm going to be parched!") or call for actual help. :-) > Yeah it does work but not neally as neat as it would > with LTE coverage :P LTE in the desert? In a real desert? I think you have better things to do in a desert than expecting LTE. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...