From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 1 10:53:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728B737B400 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from c559307a ([24.20.70.64]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001201185338.DVK26507.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@c559307a>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:53:38 -0800 Message-ID: <001401c05bc8$0c20d900$40461418@salem1.or.home.com> From: "xavian anderson macpherson" To: "Steve" , References: Subject: Re: installing freebsd from windows nt without using boot disks Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:53:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it didn't take six days to install NT. I INSTALLED IT IN ONE HOUR, after spending six days trying to get freebsd to run. freebsd was running after my first attempt. i am no idiot. i tried to install xfree86 version 4.0 after having first installed version 3.3.6 or whatever it was that was the base package. after trying to do that, i nolonger had use of the x-terminal. i tried to remove the version 4.0, but i got nowhere with that. i didn't want to erase everything that i had installed, just to start all over again. i had downloaded over 8 GB's of software from the web. i did not want to go through that all over again. i got freebsd on SEPTEMBER 30. i got WINDOWS NT on OCTOBER 5. after removing the linux boot sector on the disk i wanted to use, it took me less than one hour to format and install NT. i have been running it ever since. I DON'T WANT TWO SEPARATE OPERATING SYSTEMS, I WANT ONE WHICH WILL GIVE ME UNIVERSAL COVERAGE OF BOTH WINDOWS AND UNIX. THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE MICROSOFT IS INTENDING TO DO WITH INTERIX, WHEN THEY PUT IT INTO THE SERVICES FOR UNIX PACKAGE. THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE! LONG LIVE THE HIGHLANDER `GATES'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" To: "xavian anderson macpherson" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:15 AM Subject: Re: installing freebsd from windows nt without using boot disks > > > On Nov 30, xavian anderson macpherson enlightened us with the following: > > > i purchased freebsd about two months ago. i have not yet... > > You don't mention if you read the 800-page handbook... > > > > i was forced to use the ftp server as my source of installation; > > Why would you want to run an OS on another OS? Also, why would FreeBSD > want to provide "REAL SOLUTIONS for NT"? I've installed and ran NT at > work for the past eight years and have only used FBSD for about 8 > months. Give me a FBSD machine over winblows any day. (And this coming > from an MCSE+I) > > > > NT has something that the standard UFS does not have. it has an integrated > > Have you looked at Exceed by Hummingbird Communications? And you > obviously did not read the info on Windows NT Services for Unix. And I > quote: > "The Microsoft Windows NT Services for UNIX Add-On Pack provides access to > core interoperability components in an integrated, fully supported > package. Benefits include lower deployment costs, improved support for > mixed environments, and the most complete integration with current and > future Windows NT-based technologies and initiatives." Bottom line...it's > a SERVICE that runs on NT to connect to a Unix machine. > > > > quite frankly, if i find the means to compile XFREE86-4.0 and gnome for NT, > > XFree and Gnome running on NT? What unix component run under > windoze? I haven't seen any yet that provide the same functionality as on > a FreeBSD machine. > > > > >to use freebsd. i installed NT (six days) after becoming thoughroughly > >frustated with freebsd. i need to have a completely functional > >heterogenious operating environment. one which runs windows nt and freebsd > >on the same computer (preferably with only one filesystem; NTFS > >COMPRESSED). > I'm curious...how did it take you SIX DAYS to install NT? If it takes > that long to install something that an monkey can be trained to do, why > were you trying to install an OPERATING SYSTEM that requires one to know > the specifics of their system on top of another operating system that will > do a mindless install of it's own? > > Each OS has it's own particular strengths and weaknesses. But as I become > more and more familiar with FreeBSD, Windows is quickly taking a back > seat. If you have questions, ask them. There are people here who are > very good at providing solutions. But not when you rant and rave. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message