From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 16 06:29:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA07923 for current-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 06:29:53 -0700 Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA07885 ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 06:29:13 -0700 Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA17580 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:22:46 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Mon, 16 Oct 95 16:22:46 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA07025; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:21:34 +0300 To: current@freebsd.org Cc: Joerg Wunsch , phk@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: ; from =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 07:16:39 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:21:33 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: I plan to change ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE behaviour... Lines: 33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1463 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= writes: >Since it is very hard to explain to user that he must >set ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE additionly to LANG variable >to make LANG locale active for ctype-oriented programs, >I plan to make ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE as *default* case >and introduce new variable DISABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE >to disable thins thing (for debugging purposes f.e.). Well, I feel somewhat stuck now because I don't see any clear argument against *proposed* change... Please, if you feel somehow unhappy with it, specify more clearly what you have against it _exactly_. I mean Joerg and Paul here first. BTW (I trying guess the questions :-) this change don't enlarge or reduce current bloat, it simple don't touch it at all. What it does is makes user more confortable to not set ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE each time when he sets his LANG variable. If you intentionly don't want to see your native language file names in ls output even if you set LANG variable, you can always do it by setting DISABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE. If you don't set LANG variable at all, this change not affect you by any means. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849