From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:37:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDD21065672 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17398FC16 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so524084yxl.13 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.125.130 with SMTP id z2mr192035yhh.234.1300235876799; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l65sm228151yhn.39.2011.03.15.17.37.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E67AFE54833 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:37:53 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110315203753.55f1ec3b@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4D7FE8E1.90600@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20110307162153.0463fa73@atmarama.net> <20110307170014.GB65289@guilt.hydra> <4D7FE8E1.90600@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:37:58 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:32:01 +1000 Da Rock articulated: > On 03/08/11 03:00, Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 07:31:43AM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: > > > >> Sorry I could not help but to realize the title of this forum > >> discussion. > >> > >> "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that." :-/ > >> > > "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." > > > > (full quote) > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qnd-hdmgfk > > > > Did you know you can configure YouTube to use HTML5 instead of > > Flash now? Adobe is in danger of becoming irrelevant. > > > Yay! > > Unfortunately that dream may never be satisfied while stupid > corporate media giants have a desire to keep things closed up. And > now we have #%$^%& silverlight to deal with- open source cooperation > my ass! Just got v2 running and now everything requires v3.0... > > That may not affect too much in business, but any corp that has ties > with M$ is pushed to use it., meaning desktop users are left without > entertainment. My wife can't watch some tv sites because of that now- > after finally! getting flash working and watching catch up tv and the > like to come a cropper again with a new format... :( > > If only people would stick to open standards... The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. "Andrew S. Tanenbaum" Microsoft has approximately 90% of the desktop market share with everyone else dividing up the remainder. If you are on a Microsoft platform you use their products. The same applies to other platforms and their utilities. Corporate media, giants or otherwise, are in business to make money. They obviously are going to focus on the largest possible paying audience. Simple business 101. Now, as far as HAL goes, the fragmented open-source community cannot even begin to agree on its replacement. Every distro is busy trying to reinvent the wheel. Here you want the majority of users to be dictated to by a minority of users who cannot even agree on a common platform that is uniformly used throughout all the non-Microsoft community. That reasoning is totally irrational. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ The church is near but the road is icy, the bar is far away but I will walk carefully. Russian Proverb