From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 5 22:59: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE0F37B5F0 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from John1mick@cs.com) Received: from tot-tq.proxy.aol.com (tot-tq.proxy.aol.com [152.163.201.1]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id BAA14355; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (ACA9AC57.ipt.aol.com [172.169.172.87]) by tot-tq.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e765wix19301; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000901bfff6b$632adc00$57aca9ac@oemcomputer> From: "John M" To: "Mark A. Hummel" , Cc: "freebsd-questions" References: <74.1d78bea.26be25db@aol.com> <398CD87D.E4136A33@ispchannel.com> Subject: Re: Newbies - an answer to Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:58:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Apparently-From: JohnCrealey@cs.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jesse, I am new to BSD, too, and I agree with what Mark had to say. Be as specific as you can with questions. Everyone is super busy and wants to answer a question but may not have a chance to ask for clarification. Also, post messages in plain text with wrapping at 72 chars. I have learned a lot by subscribing to the list and reading each message. The responses go in waves; some of my questions go unanswered for a while, and others get answered right away. I think it depends on how busy everyone is. There is a wealth of info around; the info in the online Handbook didn't start to sink in until the second or third reading. Search the FAQ on the Web site, too. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark A. Hummel" To: Cc: "freebsd-questions" Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Newbies - an answer to > Jesse, > > I'm really surprised. I too am a newbie and I've never had prior experience with > FreeBSD. It's been three months now and I've learned a lot. It's exciting as > long as I don't look too far ahead to see what I have yet to learn. > > The key is to rely on yourself as much as possible. Have you been to the FreeBSD > web site? Have you read the online handbook or better yet, bought your own copy > of Complete FreeBSD? Have you subscribed to the newbies site and posted there? > It's geared more for us I think. The norm on this listServ (questions) is very > technically oriented. It's a great listserv, but be specific with your questions > and limit them to one or two per post. > > "...trying to install BSD and need some help..." is not specific enough. How > far have you gotten? How are you installing it, CD ROM or FTP? What kind of > errors are you getting? I've learned that the more specific the question, the > quicker and more complete the response. Please understand the people (gurus) on > this site aren't here to hand hold newbies who aren't doing there part. I mean > no insult here and am merely speaking in general terms. In fact this is the > first posting I've seen from you. My intent is to get you excited about BSD and > perhaps even inspire you to continue your adventure with a real operating system > that improves every day in response to the people who use it. Not because of > profits, but of vision (section 1.3.2 of the FreeBSD Handbook 1st Edition). > > FreeBSD is an amazing operating system and as I'm sure you're aware from your > Unix class, the best OS for those who want to be Internet power users. Open > Source Software Development (OSSD) is the best method IMO for getting real > competition back in the computer industry. Despite what the Microsoft drones > say, this is the best place to be for true innovation and vision. Hang on Jesse > and jump in -- the future of high-tech computing is here. > > Mark > > SoftGuitar@aol.com wrote: > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > I am a newbie with this BSD stuff but so far I have gotten dismal response > > from anyone...is this natural or common?? I am trying to install BSD and need > > some hel pfrom anyone in Minneapolis.................I have already taken a > > full Unix course with the Univ of Minnesota and still have troubles > > installing BSD. > > Is there a users group in Minneapolis ?? > > > > Jesse Gomez Jr > > SoftGuitar@aol.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message