From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 26 17:37:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F5116A418; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA6713C4B5; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l6QHZ4f9017161; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:35:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20070726.113506.1689681908.imp@bsdimp.com> To: simon@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20070725105930.GC1524@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <200707242352.43948.ogautherot@vtr.net> <200707250931.l6P9VgeB088253@fire.js.berklix.net> <20070725105930.GC1524@zaphod.nitro.dk> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Cc: jhs@berklix.org, freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's our standard "stripped-down FreeBSD" tool? X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:37:56 -0000 In message: <20070725105930.GC1524@zaphod.nitro.dk> "Simon L. Nielsen" writes: : On 2007.07.25 11:31:42 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: : : > "How long is a piece of string" ;-) ie likely depends what size : > flash drive is ! My impression (non user) is Freesbie aims CD size, : > whereas Nano or Tiny aim [a lot] smaller ? : > : > man nanobsd: : > doesnt quote a typical size but does have SEE ALSO picobsd : > man picobsd: : > "which typically fits on a small media such as a floppy disk" : > "The biggest problem is determining what will fit on the floppies" : > : > Suggestion: run them, generate images & use send-pr to report approx : > default sizes to be included in manuals so we know for future. : : Default sizes for nanobsd in default config is 2 x normal FreeBSD size : + ~5MB, but of course you need to set the size of your flash. You can : get it on to a 128MB flash with a config file which excludes stuff : like toolchain etc. without much trouble. The interesting size really : is with a config file like this. : : 64MB requires more work, but is possible. I think I once generated a TinyBSD image on the order or 20M. However, I lost the config files to do that in a disk crash... Warner