From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 1 12:34:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AC0106566C for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@chronos.org.uk) Received: from chronos.org.uk (chronos-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:12b::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452B48FC19 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@chronos.org.uk) Received: from workstation2.localnet (workstation2.local.chronos.org.uk [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:12b:217:31ff:fe4c:c03a] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by chronos.org.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n11CXv7N067839 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:34:01 GMT (envelope-from matt@chronos.org.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 chronos.org.uk n11CXv7N067839 Authentication-Results: chronos.org.uk; dkim=none (no signature) header.i=unknown; dkim-adsp=fail From: Matt Dawson To: Alex Goncharov Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:33:56 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE; KDE/4.1.4; amd64; ; ) References: <200901311153.58361.vehemens@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Face: Uq{{&_!oO{M&ydj?-f%{D]bN7/|/]a+utod35[+IyH#R>F~YPffK,=?utf-8?q?=25=60=7D=25=0A?=FTMbmzo,]0X3K:N&{h7],FI{?EkORzB; f:V3"vKXsUNw5Yh`}ef4MZ*a4,=?utf-8?q?ObuJ=5F=26=5B1S=27zP=5CK0wcKZP=0A?==?utf-8?q?_=60=23L=25=5Dq*OUPQ-4T=3FHZ=7EAKX0=7D3W=25o=3DP?= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on central.local.chronos.org.uk X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8933/Sun Feb 1 05:27:00 2009 on central.local.chronos.org.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (chronos.org.uk [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:12b::1]); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:34:04 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:34:11 -0000 On Saturday 31 January 2009 21:25:21 Alex Goncharov wrote: > So, a *fundamental* (practically an OS component) port is brought in > -- and it disables my system. =A0What is my way of action? =A0Right -- > install the old packages, taken from an FTP site (is there a way to > get the previous "source", that is all the ports/*/*/Makefile files? > Csup can only go forward -- or can it go back?) Yes, it can. Read the man page for csup. You can set something like tag=3D. date=3D2008.12.20.12.00.00 in your supfile and get back to (within = reason)=20 any historic point in the tree. You can also tell portupgrade, if you use i= t,=20 to hold off on certain upgrades (try pkg_info -r xorg-7.3_2 for a full list= of=20 packages to hold in portupgrade.conf, HOLD_PKGS define) if you want to stay= =20 current, although I can see a few ports failing with odd deps after they've= =20 been touched by the Xorg bump, so you'd probably be better off using the=20 supfile's date method to preserve compatibility between ports. No idea what= =20 magical incantation to feed to portmaster or portsnap as I've never used th= em. That is not to say the new Xorg doesn't work. The only problems I've seen o= n=20 Radeons needed a couple of options lines in xorg.conf due to the=20 hald/dbus/xorg race and an fdi to make the keyboard layout match what I=20 actually have rather than "us". Easily fixed for now and 7.4 brings some fi= xes=20 to my systems that I have been awaiting for quite some time, most notably t= he=20 horrendous XPress 200M chipset now works with DRI. Best regards, =2D-=20 Matt Dawson MTD15-RIPE matt@chronos.org.uk