From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 2 19:39:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F386616A4CE for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:39:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7484543D2D for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:39:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j22JdNb28397 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:39:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:39:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <165771504.20050302195222@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:39:19 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:52 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere? > > > So perhaps FreeBSD is issuing commands that the disk drives don't like. > > Incidentally, I've discovered that I can instantly generate similar > messages by issuing "smartctl -a /dev/da0" (or da1). > That is 1000% better as far as troubleshooting goes, you need to file a PR on this. > > Secondly, you don't know how NT setup the disks and such on your > > system. It is quite possible that the NT driver saw the mismatch > > and simply reprogrammed the SCSI adapter card to limit both disks > > to 10Mbt transfers. Or possibly the NT driver decided not to send > > writes to both disks at the same time. So, comparisons like "it > > worked with NT so the hardware must be good" are almost useless. > > So how do I configure FreeBSD to do the same thing? If NT can do it in > software, so can FreeBSD. > The Adaptec driver gets the setting out of the SCS adapters setting that are written into it's eeprom. You know the Press f6 message you get on boot, that lets you into the Adaptec BIOS? Change it there and the driver will pick up the change. > > But the most important thing, and I think why your having so much > > trouble here, is that you are trying to approach this problem > > as though you paid $9,000 for this server, yesterday. > > I don't believe in throwing computers away just because they are a few > years old. > I don't either but the world does and it is difficult to interest people in support of gear that is 8 years old. Hardware manufacturers in particular have a vested interest in helping you to write drivers for their brand new gear so they can sell it, and a vested interest in not helpiing you resurrect old gear that might steal sales away from new gear. > > So what is the difference between yours and mine? > FreeBSD 4.11 instead of 5.3 is a big one. Also I am using a card, my controller isn't on the motherboard. Also I only have 1 disk drive - although as you will note I have a SCSI cd and burner on the same bus. And my disk drive is a Micrapolis not a Seagate or Quantum. > > But this is a stable system. The hardware _does_ work. I didn't put > this together out of scrap parts. It has run perfectly for > eight years; > I think I can safely say that it's pretty well broken in by now. So > when I switch from Windows to FreeBSD and it stops working, I know it's > not hardware. > As long as you don't accept the fact that Windows drivers can and do write around hardware kludges, and FreeBSD drivers may not have all the same written-around kludges as the Windows ones do, your going to get nowhere. > > I'll consider it. The waste of time has been mutual. > If you don't take our advice here on the forum, it is a waste. Try limiting the sync negotiation to 10MB on the Quantum and see what happens. Ted