From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 14:17:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AAA1065675; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1597A8FC1B; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1QyP7x-0003Yr-2M>; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:17:21 +0200 Received: from e178029245.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.29.245] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1QyP7w-00059V-Ua>; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:17:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5CF0F0.6050208@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:17:20 +0200 From: "Hartmann, O." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110825 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Ambrose References: <4E5941D6.9090106@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5BEF65.2010502@gmail.com> <201108300929.51810.hselasky@c2i.net> <4E5CA9BE.2020005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.29.245 Cc: "freebsd-performance@freebsd.org" , Sergey Kandaurov , Hans Petter Selasky , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:17:22 -0000 Sorry, my fault, my stupid. One bonus less on FreeBSD :-( On 08/30/11 15:45, Paul Ambrose wrote: > I do not believe the current status of DTrace is appropriate for promoting > > 1. DTrace is an experimental function or Semi-finished products. The kernel > dtrace support is ok, but the userland support is far from completion(at > least the pid provider has many bugs) > > 2 the FreeBSD implementation is different from Solaris/Mac OS X. The > DTraceToolkit, which has many amazing feature, can not 100% works on > FreeBSD, and there is no doc to identify the difference. > > 3 There is a missing feature list about DTrace, but no schedule list about > when to fix it. > > 2011/8/30 Sergey Kandaurov > >> On 30 August 2011 13:13, Hartmann, O. wrote: >>> On 08/30/11 09:29, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: >>>> On Monday 29 August 2011 21:58:29 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >>>>> 27.08.2011 22:13, Hartmann, O. wrote: >>>>>> This website should be brushed up or taken offline! >>>>>> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html >>>>> I think this one would better look like list of major features with os >>>>> comparison, like: >>>>> >>>>> = Networking = >>>>> * IPv6: major support, best stack around. >>>>> * SCTP: full kernel implementation, still no userland support (i.e. >>>>> ssh doesn't work over sctp by default yet). >>>>> >>>>> = Data storage = >>>>> * ZFS: full support, datasets, compression, dedup, other stuff. Linux >>>>> has LVM (?features...) and btrfs (?unstable.. ?features..), Windows has >>>>> dynamic disks since XP (?features). >>>>> >>>>> = SMP = >>>>> * (?something about comparing other shedulers with SCHED_ULE), (?some >>>>> rt stuff), (?some comparison with other interesting shedulers, like >>>>> DragonflyBSD and QNX). >>>>> >>>> And USB. I believe there are significant changes in the USB subsystems >>>> which >>>> those who are making performance benchmarks completely fail to mention. >>>> >>>> --HPS >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> What's about DTrace? >>> >>> = Development/System Profiling = >>> * DTrace: Some notes of the Kernel Gurus what this could mean for >>> performance profiling and development >>> >>> = Licensing Model = >>> * Some striking comments on the advantage for companies or interested >>> people of the BSD-like licensing model over the GPLv3 on which Linux is >>> based now and which has serious implications for those who wants to >> develop >>> and sell software developed on/with GNU stuff. it would be very honest, >> if >>> we do not only emphasize only the pros. BSD came from the academic >>> environment, that was where I met it the first time and I appreciated the >>> way things were developed and 'sloppyness' was a nogo. So we should keep >> it >>> up and a serious and honest set of contraru points for all compared OS >>> should be appreciable. >>> >>> >>> Does the VM of FreeBSD still have advantges (measurable) over Linux? >> [Taking random email.] >> >> I think we could merge the $subj web page with this one (which is >> more actual, as of 7.0): http://www.freebsd.org/features.html >> >> -- >> wbr, >> pluknet >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"