From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Sep 17 11:44:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2879CE0ED for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCA810E7 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AD2B29CE0E8; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBFD9CE0E7 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DCB210E6 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from c124.sec.cl.cam.ac.uk (c124.sec.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.18.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id t8HBhxR7049820 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:44:00 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:43:59 +0100 Cc: Andreas Nilsson , Anders Bolt-Evensen , current@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> References: <55FA7324.5010603@icloud.com> <09A515F2-44BA-4DF0-9792-D4C56EEB9D7C@FreeBSD.org> To: "Lundberg, Johannes" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:44:04 -0000 On 17 Sep 2015, at 11:31, Lundberg, Johannes = wrote: >=20 > Anyway, I wish the foundation would support the graphics team by = sponsoring this development=E2=80=A6 The Foundation did fund a lot of this work, and likely will again. The = problem is not willingness of the Foundation to fund it, nor = availability of funds. As with WiFi, it=E2=80=99s availability of = people who have both the competence and interest to do the work and the = availability to work as consultants for the Foundation. Long term, the real solution is to convince GPU vendors to put as much = effort into funding FreeBSD driver development as they do into funding = Linux and Windows driver development. The Foundation has been reaching = out in this direction, but it=E2=80=99s far more compelling if people = can document cases where lack of FreeBSD support has cost a vendor = sales. If you=E2=80=99ve bought a system with an nVidia or AMD GPU (or, = ideally, if your company has bought a few thousand) because of lack of = FreeBSD support from Intel, then let Intel know. =20 David