From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 10:38:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE71016A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9615543D2D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:38:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from materribile@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040131183830.72509.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.228.74.10] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:38:30 PST Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:38:30 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Terribile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040130115533.13BE716A4D8@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Peter Ulrich Kruppa cc: Bubble Gum Subject: Re: about logo (The Beasdie question) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:38:32 -0000 Bubble Gum wrote: >> I just want to ask (i'm sorry if it's a silly question),why freebsd >> logo use "devil" character? Answered by Paul A. Hoadley and Peter Ulrich Kruppa: >It's not a devil. It's a daemon. ======= > 1) It isn't a devil but a small daemon, ... programs called daemons, ... > 2) [It's] name is beastie, ... a quasihomophone to BSD ... > 3) On http://www.freebsdmall.com you can buy Tee-shirts, ... As a recent member of OOOF (The Organization of Obsolete Old Fogies) I was there (well, nearby) when it happened. Back in the early days of UNIX (as then it was typset), when the mists of the Big Iron Age were yet to clear, and v5 and v6 were new and Lions had not yet written, there was called a moot or assembly, and the practice of distributing tee shirts to commemorate a moot was also young. And someone commissioned a tee shirt, and someone drew it (and their names may be found elsewhere), and it showed a PDP-11 to which heavy galvanized plumbing was added. Beneath one leaky pipe fitting was a large wooden barrel named `/dev/null', and on the plumbing there sat some number of small horn'd figures, red, with arrow-pointed tails and tridents (which the uneducated describe as pitchforks), and one of these daemons has just prodded another to leap from his perch, who might be said to be forking off. Backstory on `demon/daemon': In pre-Christian (ie. Greek) thinking, a daemon was a spirit, neither angelic nor diabolical, which took care of something, someone, or someplace. (This was education by osmosis, so feel free to correct me.) In Plato's _The Death of Socrates_ (or _Last Days of Socrates_, or ...) you can read Socrates speculation on the hereafter, and of a guide spirit that he expects will be there to greet him. As to the name: it's my speculation that, when Christianity came along, the world got divided into the divine and angelic .vs. the diabolical, with us in the middle, and anything that was neither divine nor angelic nor human had to be diabolical. So over time, and probably through forgetting and rediscovery of the word, the helpful or friendly or simply neutral daemon became the demon. I don't know if Ritchie or Thompson were the first to use the name for a computer service. It seems likely that at least one of them was overeducated. So no, there is nothing diabolical about FreeBSD, unlike a certain `32 bit extension to a 16 bit kluge on an eight-bit operating system for a four-bit microprocessor written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.' May we never forget the ``story'' in History. Mark Terribile __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/