From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 13 00:25:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049DB16A4DE for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5514943D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id 39so44341pyu for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:25:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=n+rK0JRelQXWBr9ZfXy9St2MQRnyqNrve1in76P+hObdQAG4qpVW5kk+/XRVFirXpCqy79+4AOYmrX8cF+N7bYy7Y0Q8FbptPK1eBbXr17ZBBcYXd+dxLElBR7+ebi8eAfUH5u33ahE8tLIXEqUXcJ+dM49vS39zcblpEZna9Bc= Received: by 10.35.37.18 with SMTP id p18mr67695pyj; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.87.9 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:25:55 +0000 From: "michael johnson" Sender: buhnux@gmail.com To: "Dejan Lesjak" In-Reply-To: <200607130209.21325.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200607130024.18047.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <200607130209.21325.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ad1e596f1c7a8d29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:25:59 -0000 On 7/13/06, Dejan Lesjak wrote: > > On Thursday 13 July 2006 01:20, michael johnson wrote: > > I agree we should move a lot of software out of X11BASE but there > > will need to be a lot of work (esp. for gnome). I'm curious of the > > time frame in which xorg 7 will be committed to the tree? I'm not > > speaking for the entire freebsd gnome team but if we did decide > > to take on this task it would probably take several months to fully > > test and get everything working well in LOCALBASE. I think the > > major hurdle for us isn't moving everything to LOCALBASE it's > > more of the upgrade path people will have to take, having to > > rebuild all gnome components and all the bugs that will follow.. > > We certainly can't throw xorg 7 that installs in LOCALBASE in tree if that > would break entire gnome :-) Hopefully we can come up with transition that > would annoy users as well as maintainers the least. One option is to wait > with xorg until most ports that now install under X11BASE are converted. > Another one is perhaps to find out whether gnome for example would work > installed under X11BASE with xorg itself installed under LOCALBASE. > There's > possibility we add xorg-7 to X_WINDOW_SYSTEM flavours (as non-default > one), > default X11BASE to LOCALBASE in that case. Would that help with converting > and testing? I might have taken your first email wrong, I was assuming you want to remove X11BASE all together? Moving xorg to LOCALBASE won't be a problem for gnome, I'm just saying the gnome ports might stick around in X11BASE for a while unless we (gnome team) get some motivation to move. We've talked about moving gnome to LOCALBASE in the past but I think we've not attempted this because it's quite a bit of work for not a whole lot of gain. Wanting to remove X11BASE might be the kick we need. Also gecko ports would probably stick around in X11BASE for a bit due to the fact that most (if not all) gecko plugins and ports that depend on a gecko are also heavly tied in to X11BASE. Michael