From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 29 18:32: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFCC37B416 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAU2Vtx05832; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:31:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <032d01c17947$2e923fe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: "Mike Meyer" , "Andrew C. Hornback" , References: <004801c17872$98e47b40$6600000a@ach.domain><017f01c1788c$8cb71d90$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15365.52562.394957.602907@guru.mired.org><01fe01c178a1$001d1be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15365.58639.39658.89837@guru.mired.org><022901c178ab$8b12cb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com><001401c1789c$f4ea1f60$6600000a@ach.domain><021f01c178a9$43b2c500$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15365.63510.713899.607362@guru.mired.org><026501c178c1$62f8fa70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15366.45514.579030.680673@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:31:55 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike writes: > I had never seen the quote from Clarke before, > or even heard that he had denied it. Thank you > for providing the information along with a > reference. Someone else provided an actual quote and reference, although I've seen multiple quotes from him. > Why don't you let them decide that for themselves, > instead of reaching that conclusion based on > your shallow exposure to the problem. I don't like to see ordinary users suffer. They tend to become permanently hostile to computers after a bad experience. > Exactly. In that case, I'd point them to the > Electric Power Research Institute, which is the > only place I've ever seen that had parking > spaces marked "Electric Vehicles Only." Exactly. > For every task you listed, I found an application. "An application" isn't good enough. It has to be compatible with the applications I named. > In that case, I must conclude that Windows - > in any flavor - is completely unsuitable for > desktop use because there isn't a version of > ratpoison for it. If ratpoison is a sine qua non for your use, that's true. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message