From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 22 14:16:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@www.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DB316A41F for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@offmyserver.com) Received: from raqdevil.offmyserver.com (ext-unused-110.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDB443D45 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@offmyserver.com) Received: from raqdevil.offmyserver.com (dho@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by raqdevil.offmyserver.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7MEFIIv035694; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell@offmyserver.com) Received: (from dho@localhost) by raqdevil.offmyserver.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j7MEFHRH035693; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell@offmyserver.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raqdevil.offmyserver.com: dho set sender to dodell@offmyserver.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:15:17 -0700 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: Eric Anderson Message-ID: <20050822141517.GC27233@raqdevil.offmyserver.com> References: <17161.51084.456346.976929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1124715244.75167.40.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <17161.53691.614602.758290@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <4309D293.8030104@centtech.com> <17161.55733.272571.61428@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20050822140150.GB27233@raqdevil.offmyserver.com> <4309DB94.5090805@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4309DB94.5090805@centtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-current@www.freebsd.org, Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: Beta2: Nice job! X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:16:07 -0000 On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 09:05:08AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > >On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 09:57:09AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > >>Eric Anderson writes: > >>> > >>> Just to check the obvious, but, you are certain you are running at the > >>> native resolution of the LCD panel, correct? > >> > >>Yep, its running at the native resolution. > >> > >>Drew > > > > > >For what it's worth, I've always found the anti-aliasing of fonts in > >GTK applications to be sub-par. They all use Bitstream Vera at a > >ridiculously small font size and seem to blur into the background by > >like two pixels on each side. I don't mind Bitstream Vera at all, > >but I agree, I cannot stand the way antialiased fonts look in these > >applications. > > Agreed - it isn't perfect at all, but better than nothing (for me, but > not everyone it seems). Is there a way to change it? I have to say, > that Windows fonts nearly always look great. Windows uses larger fonts. I think the default menu fonts in Firefox are something ludicrous like 8 or 9 pt; I believe Windows and Mac use between 10 - 12 pt fonts for this. I _think_ that I have fiddled with font sizes and been satisfied with the anti-aliasing at larger sizes before. Ah, I remember, I'm probably thinking about fiddling with Bitstream anti-aliased fonts in Plan 9 and finding I had the same problems when I got the fonts down to below a certain size. The rendering works differently, so it only really looks good at 12 - 14 pt, but I think the real issue is the default size. I'm unfortunatly not running an AA-enabled Firefox right now, though, otherwise I'd check. Some TT fonts are better for anti-aliasing than others. I guess there's nothing other than Bitstream Vera that we can rely on for now, though. > Eric > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology > Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --Devon