From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 07:35:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7131065671 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 07:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 71321.303@compuserve.com) Received: from liaag1ad.mx.compuserve.com (liaag1ad.mx.compuserve.com [149.174.40.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EA58FC13 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 07:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 71321.303@compuserve.com) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by liaag1ad.mx.compuserve.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/g1.2) id m4BFIZtN025701 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 May 2008 11:18:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:14:06 -0400 From: Jeff Bouquet <71321.303@compuserve.com> Sender: Jeff Bouquet <71321.303@compuserve.com> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <200805111116_MC3-2-485-875B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Additional_Port_File_RFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:35:28 -0000 Recurring Problem .... Not enough info is given with ports installations or pre-installs (not so bad in 2004 with 9000 ports avail.) a minor problem here, but it keeps me from suggesting FreeBSD a lot. ... examples (my other large list is put away somewhere) ...I have installed amaya, but it is nowhere to be found. Googling turned up nothing. its binary that Plist says is installed, isnt anywhere. ...pantomine? I have gnustep ports installed, but the last time I actually used them several years ago was a multistep procedure I cannot reduplicate without another hour of work ...Sat am, a Periodic (/local/) began hogging CPU. Took me a good 20 min to find out that it was not cron, but periodic, and how to start the script ...gsnapshot, if installed silently breaks one or two /multimedia/ app builds ...mnogosearch and udmsearch install one or two common files. ..."topless -c ps axuwww" Where was that command 3 years ago ??? ..................... so these are improvements** I wonder daily how to integrate into the tree. ...another file, say lookat.wiki.info gsnapshot.wiki.info amaya.wiki.info ... a wiki.info somewhere, to which users who discover these things ...could post them (presubmitting to the maintainer? if possible) so if one has 1000 ports installed, 5 hours (some weeks) of figuring stuff out could be cut to one hour. Seems like it would be a big plus in freebsd's favor. ... btw the original reason for wanting the additional file in /port/, was so that the build order is known. for instance, as I build ports manually, every week or so I put a "This_Order_This_port" file in a few /ports/ so that I know without an additional 10 min. of build-depends-list how to bump them. ... just half of the reasons (imho). Sorry not subscribed to the list. the freebsd-questions list uses up all my time I could allot to this one. Jeff