From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 5 21:07:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC4316A41C for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:07:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmp@bitfreak.org) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DA943D4C for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:07:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmp@bitfreak.org) Received: from SMILEY (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3476F19F3B; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:07:07 -0700 Message-ID: <002201c56a12$8c3b76b0$0a2a15ac@SMILEY> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <42A23FBF.8080803@makeworld.com> Importance: Normal Cc: 'FreeBSD - Advocacy' Subject: RE: FreeBSD on IRC X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:07:21 -0000 From: Chris > While it's true anyone can flame anybody - we in the channel do have > some easy things to follow before asking. In the topic it refers to > seeking the Handbook, /usr/ports/updating & /usr/src/updating. > > Many users after reading such topics generally find that it's not much > to ask that they do a few things on ones own. I have been in that > channel for over a year, and while it's certainly try that > does and can happen - it's generally warranted. Treating people like dirt just for asking a question is NEVER warranted, even if that question is at the level of, "What's the number for 911?" People who come and ask questions are, at some level, genuinely in need of help and deserve a genuine response. If it's in the Handbook, then tell them, "You need to do $FOO. A guide and reference can be found in the Handbook, section $BAR." People only grow when they realize their stupidity on their own terms. Forcing such realizations down their throats is not useful.