From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 20 03:16:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F0016A41F for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from bache.ece.cmu.edu (BACHE.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.129.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304EE43D69 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from [10.9.204.128] (dsl093-061-215.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.61.215]) by bache.ece.cmu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ABC88; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:16:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: <1263.193.231.237.171.1135037978.squirrel@dummy-host.example.com> <43A76A95.2070402@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8A3BB8D9-9270-4265-89CD-BBFB3154FA93@ece.cmu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:16:43 -0500 To: Garance A Drosihn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Native" journaling file systems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:16:52 -0000 On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:14 , Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 9:21 PM -0500 12/19/05, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: >> [ ... ] >>> (No production FreeBSD: we absolutely *need* AFS clients, and >>> none of us is enough of a kernel-level hacker to make OpenAFS >>> or Arla sufficiently stable. *grumble*) >> >> You ought to be able to NFS-export an AFS volume mounted on a Sun >> box to FreeBSD clients. That worked fine at CMU, anyway, but >> there were plenty of people with significant AFS-mojo available >> there, too. > > Ugh. We did NFS-exporting of AFS volumes early on, and it caused > us no end of headaches. We were very glad to abandon that setup, > and stick with native AFS clients. Yeh, I've used tha AFS-NFS translator and knfs to bootstrap new systypes. Not about to do that for general use. -- brandon s. allbery [linux,solaris,freebsd,perl] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH